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Has anyone had these put in recently? If so can you recommend someone?

We're trying to go through the village requirements to get reimbursed $2,500, but it's starting to become more trouble than it's worth. You need a videotape of your pipes, engineer drawings (hmmm...wonder if DTM is available?), 3 estimates w/ the plumbers indicating what they're going to do on the drawings....Plus the plumbers want to see the videotape before they write up an estimate. It is so annoying to coordinate all this crap. And the lovely gents that don't return calls. And I have a plumber holding the videotape hostage so the other plumbers can't see it. Sheesh....I get enough of that from Normy but now the plumbers are playing hard to get too. I'm starting to get a complex. We've had countless plumbers come out. So far we have 2 estimates - 1 for $10k and 1 for $5k...big difference. And of course they didn't break out how much for sump pump, how much for overhead...just one big price. So that probably won't fly with the village. I think the village is making the requirements so ridiculous that no one tries to get their $2500 reimbursement.

Are any of the flood victims going to put in one of these systems? I'm about ready to ride my coyote out of town.
 
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Originally posted by jen2974:You need a videotape of your pipes, engineer drawings (hmmm...wonder if DTM is available?)


Sorry, I'm more of a mechanical engineer. However, Steffie's dad is a civil engineer...
 
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I don't get it. With all of the flood victims, no one is putting in an overhead system????? Am I all alone here?? Come on people....I know that SOMEONE must've put one in....'fess up...unless you're too busy fornicating in the library...in which case I don't want to hear from you.
 
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If you got da $...go for it, but...One disadvantage of an overhead system is that the pumps used to force the water up from the basement level will not operate during a power outage, so overflow could occur if the power is out for an extended time. Even so, the overhead system in most cases is the most effective way to prevent basement flooding. Make sure your home during the storm and that you have a gas generator.

Alot of older homes in Glen Ellyn don't just get the water from the storm or sanitary systems...From experience, heavy seepage can create a real mess. Even if you are home...the water comes through the cracks in the foundation.

A gate valve on a sewer line works well too, but you cannot use the facilities while the system is high and the valve is in use. Oh and make sure you are home to turn it on.

Short of living on a hill like the high school is on...make sure you are home during the storm.


"When you don't know what you are talking about, it's hard to know when you are finished."
 
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Hey Cliff!
 
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Michael...I'm not even half way down the board yet and here you are again...are you on a roll or just a sugar high????


"When you don't know what you are talking about, it's hard to know when you are finished."
 
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Double dose of Adderall today.


I am a dyslexic agnostic insomniac.
I lay awake at night wondering if there is a dog.
 
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Fellow that owned the old Clark Station property in town already did that a while back. Didn't turn out too well.
 
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Armbrust put ours in and they did great work. We went through the village reimbursment program. It is really pretty easy. Televising the line takes no time at all, and is pretty cheap. We did not have engineering drawings prepared. Rather, you need a sketch of the basement w/ the location of the various plumbing fixtures. Not a big deal, you can DIY.

With regard to the comment by 'my2cents' about power outages and flooding. This is a bit off base. The overhead sewer does NOT handle storm flow. It ONLY handles the basement portion of your plumbing waste. So if the power is out, if you keep flushing the toilet or taking showers in the basement you will flood. But I bet you have the self-control to prevent that. There is NO storm water infiltration to the O/H sewer system. It has to be sealed up tight to prevent the doo-doo water from seeping out.
 
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With regard to the comment by 'my2cents' about power outages and flooding. this is a bit off base The overhead sewer does NOT handle storm flow. It ONLY handles the basement portion of your plumbing waste. So if the power is out, if you keep flushing the toilet or taking showers in the basement you will flood. But I bet you have the self-control to prevent that. There is NO storm water infiltration to the O/H sewer system. It has to be sealed up tight to prevent the doo-doo water from seeping out.


I only allow Fish to make these types of comments...anyone could be safe regardless of the type of sanitary sewer system they have, as long as all the neighbors have legal hook ups too! The guy acroos the street from where I lived had overhead sewers with his sump pump illegally hooked up to it...disconnected it long enough to have the Village inspect it then hooked it up again. There shouldn't be storm water "infiltration", but that doesn't mean there isn't any.


"When you don't know what you are talking about, it's hard to know when you are finished."
 
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With regard to the comment by 'my2cents' about power outages and flooding. This is a bit off base. The overhead sewer does NOT handle storm flow. It ONLY handles the basement portion of your plumbing waste. So if the power is out, if you keep flushing the toilet or taking showers in the basement you will flood. But I bet you have the self-control to prevent that. There is NO storm water infiltration to the O/H sewer system. It has to be sealed up tight to prevent the doo-doo water from seeping out.


Question about this because I am considering the overhead sewers and have the info on reimbursement from the village. I thought that the overhead sewers handled ALL plumbing waste in your home not just the basement...can you please clarify? The reason I was doing this was to remove all plumbing waste from being under the basement floor. Please clarify.
 
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Originally posted by my2cents:
[QUOTE]The guy acroos the street from where I lived had overhead sewers with his sump pump illegally hooked up to it...disconnected it long enough to have the Village inspect it then hooked it up again. There shouldn't be storm water "infiltration", but that doesn't mean there isn't any.


OK I am on the assumption that if you're going to the trouble of installing an O/H sanitary sewer, you are not going to corrupt the system by hooking up your own storm water to it.

You are also right that storm water will get into the sanitary system. However, that should only happen on the downstream side of your house. I grant you, the village sanitary system COULD be so flooded such that it may want to flow back into your house. However, if that happens, the sanitary ejector pit probably couldn't keep up anyway (power on or off).
 
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Originally posted by mom:
I thought that the overhead sewers handled ALL plumbing waste in your home not just the basement...can you please clarify? The reason I was doing this was to remove all plumbing waste from being under the basement floor. Please clarify.


At some point, your 'upstairs' plumbing is high enough that you can allow it to gravity drain to the street w/o an O/H pump system. Normally, you'd allow ground floor or higher to gravity drain, while the basement would be pumped 'overhead'. I suppose that depending on the topography around your house you may want to connect both the basement and the ground floor plumbing to the O/H pump system. However, you really would never need to hook your 2nd (or higher) floor plumbing to the O/H system.
 
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