If you're attempting to cast doubt upon what's been reported about the McCain-Palin rallies, you haven't succeeded here. The article you linked to doesn't address at all what's been happening at the rallies. It discusses broadcast advertisements. The originating post is about the McCain-Palin rallies.
"A man brought a stuffed monkey doll wearing an Obama sticker to a Palin campaign event in Johnstown, Pa. Realizing he was caught on camera, he passed it off to a child he didn't know."
at the end of the 19th century Thomas Nast (the famous editoral cartoonist who drew the Santa we know today) used to depict the Irish as monkeys. I really don't think this swiftboating ("terrorists," "who is obama.." sarah palin, etc.) is going to work this time. Poor Obama...the economy is on his side, and what a mess he'll get to deal with.
Hmmmm, you talk about racism, which I am willing to admit, still exists in this country, but you won't face the fact that Obama's mentor, the very Rev Wright, was a racist as anyone out there. Sure, Obama distanced himself from "the greatest influence on his life" as he called him, for political expediency, but don't give me your holier than thou attitude on this subject. If McCain or Palin palled around with such characters they would have been removed from the ticket, and, for good reason.
gus, i think "holier than thou" is harsh, if you're directing it at me. you have to admit that things ARE getting out of hand, in a dangerous way! and while i was glad to see mccain take the mic from the woman who said obama was an arab (infering he's a terrorist) and defend that he is not a bad person, sarah palin has been ignoring this type of outburst at her rallies. irish, arab...it's still the same thing. and frankly, at this point, i think rev. wright is past history. i think it would be pretty hard to turn a harvard law grad into a raving lunitic just from the teachings of one man. heck, i'm catholic...want to talk about nut-jobs? we have plenty of them.
Candidates John McCain and Sarah Palin have been stoking people at their Presidential campaign rallies, resulting in racist behavior by their supporters. Reverend Wright is NOT a Presidential candidate and is NOT appearing at any Presidential campaign rallies. Nor is candidate Barack Obama stirring up supporters at his Presidential campaign rallies in such a way as to cause them to behave in a racist fashion.
I don't see how anyone can see the news footage, read the reporters' remarks who cover these rallies, and not feel revulsion. Yes, attack your opponent - on policy. Even character, I suppose - although I'm not sure that's going to work this time. But do NOT stir up echoes of Nuremberg or lynch mobs, which is exactly what McCain/Palin (and Palin specifically) is doing. They're losing and they're desperate and they're trying anything...but for God's sake, don't they care about "country first," as they keep saying? Or even about their own legacies (particularly McCain)?
I'm usually the first person to think my country is going to hell in a hand basket, and not have much hope that the better angels of our nature, to quote Lincoln, really will prevail. But this time, I think my fellow citizens are looking at this with appropriate revulsion. And that, for once, this is going to backfire big time.
All I know is I'm sickened and ashamed when I see these events and read the reports - which are all over the place, not just in the so-called "liberal media."
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No less disconcerting was a still-unexplained passage of Palin’s convention speech: Her use of an unattributed quote praising small-town America (as opposed to, say, Chicago and its community organizers) from Westbrook Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist famous for his anti-Semitism, racism and violent rhetorical excess. After an assassin tried to kill F.D.R. at a Florida rally and murdered Chicago’s mayor instead in 1933, Pegler wrote that it was “regrettable that Giuseppe Zangara shot the wrong man.” In the ’60s, Pegler had a wish for Bobby Kennedy: “Some white patriot of the Southern tier will spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow falls.”
This is the writer who found his way into a speech by a potential vice president at a national political convention. It’s astonishing there’s been no demand for a public accounting from the McCain campaign. Imagine if Obama had quoted a Black Panther or Louis Farrakhan — or William Ayers — in Denver.
I'll give McCain some credit that he has tried to answer to and silence some of these nasty people speaking at his rallies. It's really sickening. Luckily, most of us do recognize it for what it is: hate.
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Go to any reputable source and read about Jeremiah Wright's service as a Marine. He served his country with honor. He saw what was being done to people because of the color of their skin and it made him angry. He has expressed his anger at the terrible conditions in which some of his fellow American citizens find themselves, again due to their pigment.
William Ayers admitted what he did and is now considered a productive member of society.
Go to any reputable source and read about people that John McCain and Sarah Palin, to use their campaign's terminology, "pal around with", including John Hagee, Rod Parsley, John Keating, Thomas Muthee, Joe Vogler.
I prefer to think it's about the person running for office, but if the associate game is the one you want to play, I can't see how you can win.
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If McCain drags out these desperate character attacks during Wednesday's 90-minute debate, I believe he will effectively seal his fate about three weeks early. The Republican base will eat up any red meat, but independent swing voters are more interested in real issues -- especially the economy right now -- than distraction tactics. Given the immediate financial circumstances, blatant mud-slinging that strays from the issues would likely just be a big turnoff to them.
Originally posted by Crescent: If McCain drags out these desperate character attacks during Wednesday's 90-minute debate, I believe he will effectively seal his fate about three weeks early. The Republican base will eat up any red meat, but independent swing voters are more interested in real issues -- especially the economy right now -- than distraction tactics. Given the immediate financial circumstances, blatant mud-slinging that strays from the issues would likely just be a big turnoff to them.
Those people do not represent my views as a McCain supporter. I hope these people don't represent your views as a Obama supporter yesterday at Palin rally
I think we are all wasting our time focusing on a few idiots that support a given candidate/try to insult another candidate. People are free to say what they want...unfortunately, in some cases.
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Perplexed, you're 100% correct - as an Obama supporter, I'm disgusted by these people.
However. The salient point here is that this happened at a PALIN rally. What's been discussed here is how wrong it is to have Palin/McCain actually encouraging these frenzied, racist comments - or if not downright encouraging, doing nothing to reign them in (until McCain, anyway, half-heartedly tried to do so on Saturday.) (But in Palin's case, I'd say she's encouraging them.)
These unfortunate remarks you reference did not occur as a result of Obama/Biden whipping their crowds into a foul-mouthed frenzy. That's the difference.
Presidential campaigns always seem to turn really nasty in the last few weeks. This one is particularly bad.
I just can't get over the insanity of some of these supporters. Don't they understand that these two men are simply two candidates vying for the same promotion? And that as of January 20, 2009 one of them will accept the job and the other will continue to work for the same employer as a senator? I don't think Obama and McCain hate each other at all, they're probably relatively congenial co-workers.
It's the supporters who show such hatred, and until I see a candidate condoning that kind of behavior, I am simply going to ignore it and focus on the various positions on the issues.
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