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Dammit, I did it again. My apologies for again screwing up this thread.

A day or two ago I tried to "move" it from the D41 forum to the new Election forum. Instead it made an alias. So now I attempted to delete the alias... and it killed the original, too.

MumbleMumbleMumble... I miss vacuum tubes.
 
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My shrub lines were pretty funny...top notch.
 
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True art is not eternal
 
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The money race for district 06

total raised and spent for Congressional District 6, as of 2 NOV 05:

from opensecrets

also at:

FEC as of 30 SEP 05

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Roskam has business support, Cegelis has none:

sector highlights


The bulk of Cegelis $$$ support so far seems to come from individuals.


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Sector breakdown from the 2004 election. Labor liked Cegelis, other sectors don't, but labor hedged its bets:

2004 district 6



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While you're at it, want to see which neighbors gave at least $200 to the presidential race in 2004?


neighbor search


that list is centered upon Franklin School.



g'day!
 
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Some years ago, the Economist recalled this quote from Louisiana's Earl Long:

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“Don’t write anything you can phone. Don’t phone anything you can talk,” Earl famously advised, “Don’t talk anything you can whisper. Don’t whisper anything you can smile. Don’t smile anything you can nod. Don’t nod anything you can wink.”



You don't have to cover your tracks if you don't leave any.

Who knows - it might be prudent to apply the advice to 'campaign contributions'. Give only cash and only hand it over in private, or don't give at all.

Incidently, Earl was escorted from the LA. state house to an insane asylum in Texas during his last stint as governor. His own wife signed the papers after Earl suffered what was reported as a 'breakdown'. Some months later, he won election to US Congress.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by GE fan:

If Vivoda is a true Republican, he wouldn’t want Roskam to spend precious financial resources in a primary fight, said state Sen. Kirk Dillard, the DuPage GOP chairman. Vivoda should let Roskam save his money for the general election next November, Dillard said.

“Sadly, Mr. Vivoda will only be helping the Democrats, since he will not beat Peter Roskam in the Republican primary,” Dillard said.

Read the whole thing.

Vivoda probably doesn't have a chance, but he sure knows how to stir things up.

GE


Well, at least there's SOMETHING to like...about Vivoda running, I mean.
 
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Last night I had the opportunity to walk into Walgreens and see Mr. Vivoda...now, let me assure you that it was him...and all I can say is that for someone who plans on running for a public office, mind you I'm not a politician so I don't know all the "ins and outs" of running for office or holding office, I would have expected at least a "hi" or at the least an attitude of friendlieness... This elected official is above all of us, I was so baffled by his high and mighty posture and unfriendliness.

Now, before I get sand blasted, I did not expect him to ask me about my day; however, he looked me square in the eyes, did not smile, did not nod, just gave me a look like..."move on...you are in my way"

Mr. Vivoda, will never, ever, receive a vote from me.
 
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All of the above!
 
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quote:
Now, before I get sand blasted,


Is this a new technique that Cosmo's is using?


What part of "no" don't you understand?
 
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Yes, it's somewhere between the last coat of polish and the third martini.
 
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Originally posted by mom:
Last night I had the opportunity to walk into Walgreens and see Mr. Vivoda...now, let me assure you that it was him...and all I can say is that for someone who plans on running for a public office, mind you I'm not a politician so I don't know all the "ins and outs" of running for office or holding office, I would have expected at least a "hi" or at the least an attitude of friendlieness... This elected official is above all of us, I was so baffled by his high and mighty posture and unfriendliness.

Now, before I get sand blasted, I did not expect him to ask me about my day; however, he looked me square in the eyes, did not smile, did not nod, just gave me a look like..."move on...you are in my way"

Mr. Vivoda, will never, ever, receive a vote from me.


Did it ever occur to you that perhaps it is a bit uncomfortable for Mr. Vivoda to be working at Walgreen's part-time in order to pick up some extra holiday cash? Times is tough, Mom (BTW, have I ever mentioned that Mom is my mother's name, also?), let's cut John some slack.
 
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I often get a good chuckle but Clam, I truly laughed out loud at this one! Happy Thanksgiving. I am thankful for people with a sense of humor!
 
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Very good Clam!! To clarify, it is a combination of his performance and his arrogance that leads to no vote...
 
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Well, he did shrubishly admit that he was short on cash.
 
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Whew! What a relief to our friends and neighbors in the Spalding neighborhood. The Board of Education of District 41 voted to take the Spalding site off of the table for the 5/6 center. Now they can all sleep better was the quote I heard. Hmmm...after the beating those folks took, I'm not sure rest will ever be easy again.

More likely the board president will sleep a bit easier. Nothing like getting the monkey of a messy eminent domain matter off of his back as he enters the race for Congress. So how many "Vivoda for Congress" yard signs should we expect to see around Spalding?
 
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"Vivoda" has 80% of the letters needed to spell "vodka". He may very well get my vote.
 
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Originally posted by Clamato:
"Vivoda" has 80% of the letters needed to spell "vodka". He may very well get my vote.


Sounds like a campaign slogan.
 
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Hi!

May I comment? Now I'm no expert, and I don't know Vivoda or Cegelis personally, but I do have some thoughts...

My hunch is that Vivoda can get money more than votes, and that Cegelis can get votes, but not much money.
Anyhow...

Vivoda must have a long term plan. The fact that Vivoda has been considering running for the seat since 1999 may indicate that he has already taken a 'long' view of the situtation. What I was thinking about the Vivoda move was that Vivoda was possibly positioning himself to take on either Roskam or Cegelis (if Cegelis bags the 2006 primary) in 2008 after a Roskam or Cegelis (or other Democrat) win in 2006. A 2006 loss would not necessarily be political suicide for Vivoda. He needs to build up some name recognition across the district. Who of us would know anything of Cegelis if she had not run in 2004?

Can he get votes? Looking at the district 47 election results from last time, IF I AM READING THE RESULTS CORRECTLY, Vivoda seems to have received a vote on just over 46% of ballots cast: 3,294 votes received, 7,107 ballots. Second highest vote getter on the list, after Cosgrove.

Some of those 3,294 voters would be working on a Vivoda for Congress campaign.

Incidently, 7,107 ballots represents a 40% voter turnout - there's 17,643 registered voters in school district 41. This looked like a high voter turnout, when compared to most of the other districts. The money issue may have motivated the turnout, I suppose...

Base support: How many of these people actually form a strong Vivoda 'base'? I have no idea. Here's something Barney Frank once said: "Your base in politics is made up of people who are with you even when you are wrong." I imagine building such a base is a full-time job. Is Vivoda on the wrong side of any issues here? Always that's a matter for debate. Still, someone's going to figure out that he kinda likes taxes. Maybe he's testing his base? hehehehe...



Cegelis support: 6th Congressional District has 274,803 registered voters. There was a 75% turnout in 2004. Hyde got 56.67%. More people might rememeber Cegelis's name next time around. Enough to win? Who knows?

Some Observations from the left side of the aisle:

different contributor profile - good for Cegelis?

Dist-06 voter profile - good for Cegelis?

But Cegelis cannot count on national party support?

SO... maybe it's just gossip, but Cegelis is not necessarily the party's first choice anymore - and she may already have had a hard row to hoe.


"Ain't no flies on me!": I imagine that a candidate like Vivoda would view the bag of GOP scandals as an opportunity to position himself as an 'independent' Republican - hence he would hammer away at Illinois GOP operative's links to G. Ryan. If the links don't exist, he'll create them: "He doesn't expect to get the support of the district's traditional Republican leadership, who he says "winked and nodded at George Ryan forever." The claim only has to be believable, he doesn't have to produce proof. He'll look like a 'reform' candidate.

New blood: If the Illiniois GOP cannot soon recover from the Ryan scandal, party members like Vivoda stand a chance to bring in new leadership - if there is enough of them. If the national party cannot recover from it's present problems, the local GOP power structure can only get weaker. They already looked to me to be somewhat in disarray after choosing Alan Keyes. I imagine that that choice would have offended at least some of the local talent. Get enough disaffected local GOPers together, they can try to take the Illinois party in a new direction.

Witness another GOPer having some issues with the Addison township GOP organization: see the "Word on the Street"column in the Nov 24 Glen Ellyn News. Chip Collis is waiting around to see if loyalty is a one-way or a two-way street. So a guy named Durante may have his nose out of joint over more than one maverick?

The dirty jobs: Scandals may overtake the state Democrats, as well. Blagojevich and Daley each seem to have hiring 'issues'. Same as it ever was. Being an Illinois governor is not for the faint-hearted. How many of these guvs stayed out of jail trouble - Kerner, Ogilvie, Walker, Thompson, Edgar, Ryan. (Small world: Thompson runs the firm that's defending Ryan.)


Couldn't all this give local Republicans who can somehow look both principled and moderate a chance to rise above the heap? Probably that would not take much effort! But if the national GOP cannot escape its own scandals, what then?


There's a chance that both parties in this district fracture, making the primaries a mess; and if that were to happen, I would guess that turnout in the general election be somewhat lower than otherwise. If cegelis can survive that far and her voters show up in the same numbers as in 2004, being motivated by issues like job (in)security or war fatigue, maybe there's a chance for her (meaning that enough GOP stays home on election day to give Cegelis's voters more weight). But if she is damaged by her own party, what then?
 
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It looks like Regent Street gets to keep their mayor. Today's Daily Herald reports that Vivoda has dropped out of the race for Henry Hyde's seat. Guess I'll have to take back the "Good-bye and Good Luck" decorations I bought for the farewell party we were going to throw for him at the next board meeting, you know so that he could focus on the race. Oh well...
 
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That Walgreen's scandal must have caught up with him.
 
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