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GlenEllynite
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Looks like Jim has decided it's his turn again according to today's press.
Just something about how he makes the same mistakes over again. Wink
 
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I'd vote for J. Ryan....but a different J. Ryan.
 
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I thought the Edgar endorsement of Dillard was a message to stay out.


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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Ackerman - Is there someone you don't have a problem with? I would really like to know someone gives you happiness in your life. Roll Eyes


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I think it may be politicians who live in Elmhurst and Riverside. Maybe Glen Ellyn, but that's all. Wink


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
William James
 
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We live in Smogland.
 
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quote:
..one of his adult (20 something) son's wrote a bad check to my business and wouldn't return calls..


Did you ever get made whole?
 
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Good that he made it right.
 
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if 'THE PERSONALITY STORE' ran a sale,

ouch.
 
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Really tough to pick favorites between him and his successor!
 
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Originally posted by ackerman:
Do I need your permission to complain? That's a quick answer.


At the risk of joining Nika in "the box", complain all you want. I just wondered if the apoplexy you project regarding certain issues haven't consumed you to the point of seeing the other valid points. I can appreciate your bringing a story related to Mr Ryan to the discussion, but when you mention going to his house to collect on his son and getting a "glare", and somehow this relates to his inability to affectively run our state, I would question your detachment to the issue. A "glare" from me would be the best you would get if you showed up at my house under the same pretenses.


“just like in real life there's still rules on this team. Unlike real life? Nobody's above the rules on this field."
– Coach Eric Taylor
 
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GlenEllynite
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one of his adult (20 something) son's wrote a bad check to my business

Maybe he was just sick and tired of covering for his son and was really glaring at the son in his mind and it had nothing to do with you. Just a thought.
 
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Wait. What? I agree with Rob?

I have a lot of problems with Ryan, but family should be off limits in the discussion.


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William James
 
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Kids and family are off limits, professional accomplishments are not. We are still cleaning up Jim Ryan’s mess with the sad case of Jeanine Nicarico, the same case currently on trial as we read this, 26 years later.

In 1984, as our DuPage County State's Attorney, Ryan indicted three innocent men, Rolando Cruz, Alejandro Hernandez and Stephen Buckley, for the kidnapping, murder and rape of Jeanine Nicarico. Cruz and Hernandez were tried, convicted, and sentenced to death with no physical evidence linking them to the crime.

Ryan’s office tried them not once, not twice, but three times, costing the taxpayers millions of dollars. Nearly costing Cruz and Hernandez their lives.

In 2000, Cruz, Hernandez and Buckley reached a $3.5 million civil settlement with DuPage County for their wrongful prosecution.

And today, we watch our tax money drained on a 7th trial for the crime, for an individual, Brian Dugan, who confessed to it in 1985 through his attorney and would have plea-bargained to the charges for life imprisonment. Dugan, already imprisoned for life, back on trial because of a DuPage County State's Attorney office that is not content with seeing him rot in jail, but seeks the death penalty, a death penalty currently under moratorium, partially due to the mishandling of this very case by Jim Ryan’s office.

Maybe Jim Ryan can fit that on a bumper sticker or a campaign button.

Jim Ryan's Prosecutorial Misconduct
Prosecution of three innocent men
 
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Is that all ya got?? Is that any better or worse than what Blago or any other of the host of politicians have done to this state?

Are you a Dillard fan? P Quinn? I would like to think that the man has had sufficient beatings regarding the Cruz case. He has also endured enough personal tragedy that he is not the same person he was 26 years ago. Who is?


“just like in real life there's still rules on this team. Unlike real life? Nobody's above the rules on this field."
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GlenEllynite
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Why would you expect a parent to cover a check for a child old enough to have his own account...Kudos to him to care enough to cover it.
 
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Well....trying to kill innocent people by capital punishment is pretty bad in my view. And three tries at that. TG the higher court saw the errors in the case and kept throwing it out. I'd say that's worse than what Blago did.
 
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GlenEllynite
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Why wouldn't you just file in small claims? I do it all the time. I would never dream of showing up at someone's personal residence to recover a debt. That is dangerous, unless you were lookng for the pub that comes from confronting a public figure. Maybe you should clear these situations with me first as well.


“just like in real life there's still rules on this team. Unlike real life? Nobody's above the rules on this field."
– Coach Eric Taylor
 
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I can understand why you went to the address, though I also see Rob's point.

However, the only time I would cover a bad check that my child writes would be if he or she was new to having a checking account (i.e. 18 or 19) and then it would only be the first time. Again with the actions having consequences thing.


Should I give up, or should I just keep chasing pavements....even if it leads nowhere - Adele
 
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Is that all ya got??


Rob, it’s not “what I got,” it’s out there, it’s fact. Jim Ryan wants the Governor’s seat, I think it is fair to look at his leadership, what he has done in his past. My opinion has no relevance, nor my preference of other candidates (I don’t have any).

I’m sorry for his family’s tragedies, they have endured their share of hardship, and then some. Leadership and his viability as a candidate has nothing to do with enduring personal tragedy, doing so does not necessarily make anyone a better (or worse) person. But you would think it would make someone more empathetic, and to this day, he has never shown forgiveness or apologized to Cruz or Hernandez, their families, or to the taxpayers of DuPage County, or to Jeanine Nicarico’s parents who have had to relive the pain through seven trials of four different men over 26 years. No, Ryan hides under the statement of "I did what I thought was right based on the evidence I knew at the time." Which is sick, because that implies he thought it was right to put two innocent men to death long after he and his office learned of Dugan's admissions to the crime.

And for you to say “ I would like to think that the man has had sufficient beatings regarding the Cruz case” is laughable, if it weren’t so tragic. If his will had been imposed, if he had succeeded, two innocent men would have been executed. Exactly what were his beatings Rob? Calls for justice? Personal accountability? He went from screwing this case up to two terms as the Illinois Attorney General. Hardly a beating.
 
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