it must be true. Looks like our fine state government, led by the jiggling bowl of Jell-O, Pat Quinn, is indeed going to start stiffing cities, towns, villages, counties and Lord knows who else on their share of the state income tax.

Quinn unfairly targeting local share of income tax, Daley contends

quote:

Over the weekend, Quinn's budget director said municipalities must "share the pain" of Illinois' huge budget deficit by giving up part of the income tax revenue collected by the state. Instead of getting 10 percent, budget chief David Vaught said, the municipalities would receive 7 percent — a statewide cut of about $300 million.

Ain't this a revoltin' development? This is major and it will hit every single municipal government's budget like, if not a TON of bricks, perhaps a 1/2 TON!

When, oh when, will the bloat be degassed from the massive State government?

This already hit the fan in MI- for example some municipalities and townships are returning paved roads to gravel- can't afford to repave.

It's not bloat- we been robbed. Not much but a shell left at the State which is why I get mad when I hear candidates say they are going to reduce taxes and cut services- Red flag goes up as that's what all the past crooks said for 20 years to get into office and then overspend and pocket.

This will hit the Village of Glen Ellyn AND the County of DuPage and heck, every other town, village, county and city across the entire state - HARD.

What's next? Will the state pocket the 1% of the sales tax that they normally rebate?

I might have to accelerate my moving out-of-state plans. This is going to get OOGLY.

I like the Daily Herald but see if you can spot this stiff-the-municipalities-outta-their-income-tax issue in this article on Quinn's budget speech.

Key issues await governor in budget speech

Look, I know there are a TON of issues in the state budget debacle but nary a mention of this looming fustercluck? Come on Herald!

Bio, what gets me is not so much that the past 20 years of crooks have said it, but that the American Voters believed it! Really? Do you really think it's humanly possible to come up with a way to better our municipalities and community areas withOUT raising taxes one bit?! *shakes head*

You know, I only recently learned that the state rebates a "per capita" portion of income taxes back to individual municipalities/counties. I kind of semi-stumbled across it as a line-item on the 2010 DuPage County Budget Summary.

I was looking at this to see how much more sales tax they have Hoover'd in now that the 2008 Blago-Cronin RTA "Free Rides for Seniors" sales tax had been collected for over a full fiscal year.

When I spotted $9,482,558 in an "Income Tax" line item with the column heading - FY2008 Actual - I asked myself:

"Income Tax? What Income tax? I have never paid any DuPage County income tax."

My answer appears on Page 5 [of 56 in the pdf].

quote:

Income Tax

The county receives a prorated portion of the total income tax collected, calculated as a
percentage, based on the ratio of DuPage County population in unincorporated areas, to
the total State of Illinois population. The population figures are determined by the United
States Bureau of the Census and certified by the Office of the Secretary of State.

This $9.5 million is what is going to take a 3% haircut, I guess. Although, I am not clear on just how the 3% "share the pain" cut will be applied.

Note on the linked-to 2010 Budget pdf, it appears as though DuPage has already taken the reduction in their "prorated portion" of income tax into account. They peg Income Tax for 2010 at $8,621,524.

But this could also be just their guesstimate of the overall "bad economy, less income tax collected".

Stay tuned for more pain sharing.

And Bio, it's nice to know that Michigan townships can let their roads "return to gravel" while still being in existence.

What's next? Will the townships start handing out axes, ox harnesses and plows? While Aunt Millie and Uncle Ted still doze away, keeping their chairs nice and warm?

Michigan is considered a high tax state. So even with all those taxes they don't have enough to pave their roads.

In Illinois We increased income taxes, real estate taxes, sales taxes. The state has borrowed, begged from the feds, and stolen from just about everyone else. And we're told that surprise the state is broke ( again ). So maybe it isn't how much it takes in but how much it spends.


If the village finance guy is right and GE is barely holding its head above water then cut backs in state funding will not be good news for GE.

Considering that DuPage's share of the income tax is based on "the ratio of DuPage County population in unincorporated areas" it is clear that every "incorporated area" [i.e. town, village or city - including Glen Ellyn] is getting their OWN SHARE.

Just as when DuPage voted down video poker machines, it only applied to "Girls, Girls, Girls" unincorporated areas, same with the income tax kickback.

Also, in the Citizen's Financial Report, posted right on this site, "Shared State Taxes" are listed as 7% of Glen Ellyn's annual revenue.

What is NOT posted is: How much of this shared state tax is sales tax and how much is income tax?

50/50? 60/40? What?

Generally upper 1/2 to third in taxes but one of their largest problems (according to my ex village manager father-in-law is low fees- Fee for service is not considered a tax which often makes comparisons between states difficult. MI has lagged way behind "creative" states like IL that charge you mucho bucks for permits, licenses, registrations, tolls, red light cameras, etc. etc. etc.

Ge is actually in pretty good shape when compared to many other DuPage muni's but losing any money will hurt.

I'm thinking there's initially going to be a pretty big voter revolt due to the public school cuts- for many people good schools are a big reason for where they decided to live and is factored into the cost of your house besides the fact that that education isn't going to measure up to college prep anymore. Ouch. To bad its about 25 years late but at least some voters may wake up.

Considering that the schools have enough money to pay 300K for a school superintendent or in some cases 1000.00 per student. A lot of people may start asking just what the schools have been doing with their money.

Living in Illinois I've seen my real estate taxes double in the last ten years. Can't say my kids education experience has increase by that amount.

Bio, I agree that the recent state cuts [failure to pay what is owed, actually] are a snarky, dirty deal. I didn't really see it coming on the level that it is now playing out. Just look at all the stories EXPLODING on the Daily Herald web site about it.

But....

Let's face it, most school districts 'round here rely on property taxes for as much as 85% of their revenue. It is an all-too-frequent talking point in the context of "good schools", property values and resales. No?

Local control/funding - love it or hate it - is a hallmark of the manner in which education is funded in the Late Great State of Ill-Annoy.

[sarcasm]
Turning to the state would be almost "socialistic", wouldn't it?
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Yet, the LOWV sends about one LTE to the Daily Herald per week lobbying for "tax reform" for school funding.

Translation: Now that the property tax well is about to run dry, how 'bout a Springfield Sugah Daddy?

US Census School spending

More numbers than you can shake a stick at- right down to every school district in the entire country including funding, benefits, admin cost, etc etc etc.

Couldn't really see where IL, or NE Illinois when compared to other suburban areas in the country was out of line- pretty much middle of the road statistically which seems to indicate if you cut funding you likely lose quality of education as you move in with your new not so well to do peers.

On Page 24 of that Census pdf, I see where Illinois looks like this, as far as funding sources on a per-pupil basis:

Federal......$885 [31st in nation,  7.9% of total]
State......$3,707 [45th in nation, 33.2% of total]
Local......$6,569 [11th in nation, 58.8% of total]
          $11,161 [21st in nation]

And this is for the entire state. Around here? The "Local" portion is more like 85%.

From D41's Tax Levy FAQS:

quote:

What proportion of money does the district get from taxes?

Most years, the district gets about 85% of its money directly from property taxes. Most of the rest comes from state and federal sources.

As with many other "stats" [such as rate of unemployment, median home price, etc.], when viewed as a statewide or nationwide measure/standard, regional variations trump the 30,000 foot view.

I'd say that pretty much all DuPage County school districts are in the 75%-85% Local funding range. We ain't no steenkin' socialists!