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Dinsdale, a P.S. to your note of completeness: the actual stated capacity when the buildings were added onto was 3,600 (1200 at Hadley and 600 at each of the elmentaries). Doesn't that make you feel better? Wink


I tell you, videogames and twinkies are to blame.
We need to increase the PE budget!
 
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Interesting question, candidate. I thought that the over 600 in mobiles did not sound right so I pulled enrollment reports to verify. In fact, according to the 1/31/2008 enrollment report mobiles house 619 students. Back up one year to 1/31/2007 and the enrollment report shows 541 in mobiles. One would think that we must have had a sharp increase in the student population right? Wrong, in fact we are actually down 21 students overall, yet we increased the number of students in mobiles by 78 students.

Perhaps part of the answer is some of the lower than target size classes. Case in point, Lincoln Kindergarten with 5 sections last year and 5 sections this year, except now we are down by 23 students. Class sizes of 15? Maybe that's our new target.


The difference in the number of kids in portables from this year to last is primarily a result of the usage of the portables at Churchill. Last year ( See January 2007 report here), you'll see 5 sections of 3rd grade in portables at Churchill. This year ( January 2008 report) there are 4 sections of 3rd and 4 sections of 4th in portables. Last year, those other portables that were not used for 3rd grade were used for bilingual and other special programs.

The decision of how to utilize the portables is primarily made by the specific building administration. The fact that the "number of kids in portables" increased this year is not of particular concern to me personally, since I understand that the change is due to the "swap" at Churchill.


Bob Solak
 
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When a Space Utilization report is issued (and later used) as factual information, and it is not able to provide alternative uses for the space because its focus is on only current program usage and space needs, this could paint a very clear (if not erroneous) picture of our current school needs.

example: If Pre-K is housed elsewhere, what does that do to the space utilization model for that school?


The space utilization study was commissioned to only deal with utilization in regard to current programs. They were not tasked with suggesting program changes. I think the Board is aware of its limitations for projecting facility needs if you include changes to services delivered.


Bob Solak
 
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Originally posted by Rob Herbold:
When a Space Utilization report is issued (and later used) as factual information, and it is not able to provide alternative uses for the space because its focus is on only current program usage and space needs, this could paint a very clear (if not erroneous) picture of our current school needs.

example: If Pre-K is housed elsewhere, what does that do to the space utilization model for that school?


The space utilization study was commissioned to only deal with utilization in regard to current programs. They were not tasked with suggesting program changes. I think the Board is aware of its limitations for projecting facility needs if you include changes to services delivered.


Bob, as always, Thank You for your time and reply. My issue is how the Utilization "Facts" are provided to the community. If it is utlized to show overcrowding now (Not that it is) it only paints a half picture. This is one of the largest failings of previous Boards and Administrations. If the utilization study is used as a small part of an over-all master plan that takes into account possible program or class size target changes, than I am all for it.
 
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If it is utlized to show overcrowding now (Not that it is) it only paints a half picture. This is one of the largest failings of previous Boards and Administrations. If the utilization study is used as a small part of an over-all master plan that takes into account possible program or class size target changes, than I am all for it.


Readers can base their own conclusions from the report. But if the conclusion one draws is "overcrowding", then it is based upon the preposition supposition of maintaining the current level of services provided. The report was an analysis of utilization based on current offerings, so all conclusions drawn from the report have to maintain that caveat.

Personally, my desires for the report were to 1) see if there was any tweaking available to free up a classroom here and there (I didn't expect a silver bullet) and 2)provide a base of data for future analysis of facility options (including changes to programs, class sizes, etc.).

[edit note: How did no one jump on me for using "preposition" like that? Fish, Dinsdale, where are you when the message board needs you?]

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Is the report linked somewhere? Or do we just get the summary and accompanying spin from the communications police?


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At least this survey should give SchoolWeek propaganda for next week's issue!


Well, I guess it was pretty much of a no-brainer, but you gotta appreciate Riebock sticking to the "600 kids in portables" mantra.

What is that about repeating a lie often enough...?
 
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