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GlenEllynite
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We use DSL but frankly have no real need for a home phone, now with unlimited cell plans it's time to consider ditching the home phone again...

There do exist some states that have decoupled DSL service from mandatory phone service, I don't believe Illinois is one of them, but I don't know.

Anyone know of any stand alone Internet services available here that don't require some bundled service?

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GlenEllynite
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This is like the third time I've looked at ditching the home phone, although not too aggressively.

One of these days though it's gonna get ditched.
 
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I'm almost positive that AT&T offers DSL for non home phone customers.

I only keep our home phone because we have little kids who might totally freeze if one of them called 911 and be incapable of telling the operator where they are. The day 911 can trace the location of a mobile phone, my home phone is gone.
 
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GlenEllynite
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Originally posted by jombl:
This is like the third time I've looked at ditching the home phone, although not too aggressively.

One of these days though it's gonna get ditched.


Please report back on your findings. I'm in the same boat.


I am a dyslexic agnostic insomniac.
I lay awake at night wondering if there is a dog.
 
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GlenEllynite
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I would love to get rid of the land line. Has anyone heard good/bad things about this new T-mobile service? $10/month is tempting.

T-mobile Hotspot@Home
 
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GlenEllynite
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Originally posted by Ruydah:
I would love to get rid of the land line. Has anyone heard good/bad things about this new T-mobile service? $10/month is tempting.

T-mobile Hotspot@Home


Does this mean I can sit outside your house and pay T-Mobile to use your service? Awesome!


"Often Wrong, Never in Doubt"
 
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GlenEllynite
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I knew there would be a catch and you loitering outside my house is the very definition of that. Big Grin
 
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AT&T to offer $20 'naked' DSL service
Updated 1/15/2007
By Leslie Cauley, USA TODAY
Cheaper high-speed Internet service is coming.

Within a few months, AT&T is expected to start charging $19.95 a month for "naked" DSL, meaning you don't have to buy any other AT&T (T) service, including phone, to get that rate.
...

AT&T plans to offer both services for at least 30 months. The clock starts as soon as the media giant starts selling them in any of the 22 states where it is the incumbent local phone company, including California, Florida, Illinois and Texas.

Why so cheap? Three words: Federal Communications Commission.

The FCC, which has broad regulatory control over the U.S. telecommunications industry, recently approved AT&T's acquisition of BellSouth. To get needed votes from the FCC's two Democratic members, AT&T agreed, reluctantly, to offer these DSL bargains.

AT&T is required to roll out the $19.95 offer within one year and the $10 rate within six months. ...
Under the terms of the FCC agreement, AT&T is required to offer naked DSL for $19.95 in markets that are at least 80% upgraded for broadband.
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While AT&T, for example, charges $45 for naked DSL, it sells a bundle that includes phone and DSL for just $28 a month.

Cable TV companies do the same thing. If purchased separately, Time Warner charges $45 a month for its high-speed cable modem service and $49.95 for digital phone. A bundle of both — plus TV service — costs $99.

Comcast's service is among the priciest: It charges almost $58 a month for stand-alone broadband.

Kimmelman, for one, thinks AT&T's new DSL pricing will help "discipline" broadband pricing. Once AT&T's $19.95 rate for naked DSL is broadly available, other broadband providers, including cable, "will be hard-pressed to keep hiding behind a higher price."




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November 27, 2007
AT&T quietly rolls out reasonably-priced unbundled DSL
Posted by Chris Soghoian

Over the past month, AT&T has quietly started to offer reasonably priced unbundled "naked" DSL Internet service to customers around the country. The company's website makes no mention of the service, nor do its Internet phone sales representatives offer or even discuss the service. Customers wishing to sign up will need to call a specific department at AT&T to request the secret plan. Two tiers are offered, a 3Mbit down/1.5 Mbit up plan for $28.99 per month, and a 1.5Mbit down/768k up for $23.99. Those who opt for the stand-alone DSL service will be able to avoid paying the myriad of mandatory fees associated with a phone line.

The service is available to customers in at least the following states: AL, AR, CA, FL, GA, IN, IL, KY, LA, MI, MO, OH, NC NV, SC, TN, TX

Customers wishing to sign up for the service should do the following:

* Call the AT&T Dry Loop department directly at 888-800-4095.
* Ask to switch to "DSL direct".
* If they give you a hassle, say it's a retention offer.


The Real AT&T
(Credit: EFF)

The Federal Communications Commission ordered AT&T to begin offering stand-alone DSL service as one of a handful of conditions that allowed for the merger of SBC Communications and AT&T in October 2005. While it technically met the conditions it agreed to, the services were offered at such an obscenely high price that few actually opted to drop their telephone service.

The company has been widely criticized in the past for its unbundled service pricing structures. Back in 2006, the company began offering stand-alone DSL for $44.99 a month. At the same time, the company offered bundled DSL service for $29.99 a month, but subscribers were also required to purchase telephone service in a package that totaled about $46 a month. Customers could essentially save $1 per month by choosing to go with the unbundled Internet service.

In December of 2006, the company agreed to offer a low priced bundled DSL service, as part of several conditions negotiated with the FCC in order to complete a merger with BellSouth. While technically meeting the promises it made to the FCC, the company did its best to make it almost impossible for customers to locate information on the much hyped $10 per month DSL plan. Furthermore, at 768Kbps down and 128Kbps up (compared to the 3-6Mbit down speeds that the company advertisers on its website), the service barely qualified as broadband.

As part of the same BellSouth merger deal, AT&T also agreed to offer reasonably priced unbundled DSL service to customers in the 22 states that it serves. The company is required to offer the service for 30 months. After that, it can force everyone to go back to bundled DSL.

According to a number of postings by users on the Fatwallet and DSL reports web forums, AT&T has been quietly offering the previously announced unbundled DSL for at least one month. Two services are offered, a 3Mbit down/1.5 Mbit up plan for $28.99 per month, and a 1.5Mbit down/768k up for $23.99. These prices are roughly $3-5 more expensive than the bundled plans. However, customers will not need to pay $12+ per month for the required phone service as well as the myriad of mandatory phone related taxes and fees. That is, for the first time, DSL subscribers can actually save real money by ditching their phone line.

 
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GlenEllynite
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Jombl....did you do it?


I am a dyslexic agnostic insomniac.
I lay awake at night wondering if there is a dog.
 
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Yes. But honestly I'm having second thoughts - I've got until 19 Mar to change my mind, plus my home number will be forwarded to my wife's cell for 90 days - which will allow me to revert and reclaim my home service if I truly want to back out.

I just can't imagine any reason to retain a landline anymore. (Unlimited cell plans being the real driver here,)

Can you? 911/child is not bad, but for the $500-$800 I suppose you could go a long way with ADT. I realized how little it meant after watching my wife never getting up to answer the home phone for at least the last year (Even though nearly 1/2 of all the calls are from the Goodman/Steppenwolf/Lyric/CSO/Columbia House asking for her, or at least her money)- followed by me starting to pick up the same bad habit recently. (She even asked me why I wasn't answering a house call this last weekend, honest answer: If it was for me, they would have called my cell.)
 
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Interesting on how DSL has come full circle. When it was first offered in the area, you could get it with no home phone service. And if you did have home service, they still pulled a new line into the house rather than piggy-backing it on the phone line.

I think it was about '99 or very early '00 when Ameritech started requiring it to be bundled. I know I had DSL through Earthlink in Wheaton back then with no phone service, and when I moved to Batavia we had to have an active phone line to get the same service out here.
 
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I ditched my land line in December. Comcast forced my hand. Long story but I am glad they did.

Getting the old-time [2000 or so] digital land line service canceled was a beeyatch. This is a real customer service issue in this day and age: Cancelling something that you have had for a long time. I think it started with AOL.

For me, I had an open slot for a phone number on my U.S. Cellular family plan. My old land line number [that I have had since 1985] was simply moved over to my U.S. Cellular family plan.

I left all wiring in place and even still have the kitchen wall phone hanging on the wall. I don't know what to put over the wall plate that the phone hangs on.
 
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Thanks Jombl. I just ditched the phone service in our cottage. Can't get the CEO to drop it at home.....yet.


I am a dyslexic agnostic insomniac.
I lay awake at night wondering if there is a dog.
 
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GlenEllynite
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Originally posted by Fish:
I just ditched the phone service in our cottage.


A day in the life....must be nice.


"Often Wrong, Never in Doubt"
 
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GlenEllynite
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Originally posted by Fish:
I just ditched the phone service in our cottage.


A day in the life....must be nice.


Set your sights a little higher....have you seen my ride? Have you seen my country club? BTW, 78, 79 last week.


I am a dyslexic agnostic insomniac.
I lay awake at night wondering if there is a dog.
 
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