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We are currently shopping for a new flat planel HDTV in the size range of 40 to 50 inches. We need help deciding between LCD and Plasma. Any suggestions will be appreciated.


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It really depends on what you want to spend and where you will place it. If you want to mount it on the wall, you'll probably need to go with a plasma.

It's tough to judge picture, not all sets are calibrated the same especially at places like Best Buy or Circuit City. I've always liked Sony, but Samsung is coming out with some good stuff and it's usually priced $200-$300 less than Sony.

I would go to Tweeter or ABT to compare. ABT will usually give you a good price, but it's a bit of a drive. I would also check Consumer Reports regarding reliability. There are many articles on the internet that discuss the pro's and con's of plasma and LCD.


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I have been looking at the Sony Bravia which at this time will not hang on the wall.


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If you aren't hanging it on a wall look at the Sony Wega 50" proection LCD. Only about a foot deep, weighs all of about 50 pounds, and the picture is the brightest and sharpest we saw. We have had ours for about a year and love it. The LCD is the way to go if you have kids wanting to play video games, plus it has pc inputs so you can surf the GEBB in 50" widescreen glory. They can be had at Sams Club with a stand for $1800.

We did a lot of research on these (including my stint as a Circuit City employee last summer) before we setteled on this one.
 
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I have been looking at the Sony Bravia which at this time will not hang on the wall.


Why won't a Sony Bravia hang on a wall?
 
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A few tidbits on the subject:
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NYT Aug 26, 06

TELEVISIONS -- Demand for liquid-crystal-display televisions softened in the first part of the year. Inventories grew, so manufacturers cut prices almost 20 percent in the first three months, and another 20 percent in the second quarter.

The L.C.D. price-cutting forced plasma prices to fall faster to stay competitive, even though supply was tight. Plasma TV's usually cost more than L.C.D.'s, but the gap is narrowing, again presenting opportunities for smart shoppers who prefer the plasma picture.
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The sweet spot in rear projection is less than $40 for each inch of the screen's 42-inch diagonal measurement compared with about $62 a diagonal inch for an L.C.D. TV of about the same size. In the meantime, one can find plasma sets selling for about $55 to $60 a diagonal inch and even larger sets going for $60 a diagonal inch when some companies, like LG and Hewlett-Packard, set out to win market share. The best advice is to wait and watch for the 1080p plasma or L.C.D. at the same price that the 720p plasma or L.C.D. is selling for now.
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WSJ Sep 1, 06
LG Electronics Inc. and Sharp Corp. said they expect prices of flat-panel liquid-crystal-display television sets to drop 20% to 30% in 2007 amid overproduction and cost reductions.


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WSJ Sep 21, 06

Want a flat-panel TV with that tool belt?

Home-improvement, clothing and office-supply stores plan to crash the party for big-screen television sets now dominated by Best Buy Co. and other electronics retailers. The development highlights the starring role that super-slim TVs are taking not just in the living room but in every nook of the home. And the new outlets could trigger ever-faster price declines as lower-cost, lesser-known brands grab shelf space and consumer recognition.

"If you turn the clock back to three years ago, people feared Dell way too much and didn't fear Costco enough."


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NYT Sep 14, 06
Basics: Picking a Picture
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L.C.D.'s are brighter than plasma panels and can better compete with strong ambient light. And L.C.D. screens do not reflect room light, as most plasmas do (though manufacturers are beginning to fix that problem)....But L.C.D.'s are too bright for many settings. ...

More important than brightness, ... is the contrast ratio -- the range between the brightest and darkest tones the screen can produce. To demonstrate, they showed two best-in-class TV's: Sony's 40-inch KDL-40XBR2 L.C.D. ($3,500) and Pioneer's 50-inch PDP 5070HD plasma ($4,000). While both had been adjusted to produce the same light output, the Pioneer's screen looked brighter and showed more depth and detail. That was a result of a higher contrast ratio,... because plasmas can produce deeper blacks than L.C.D.'s.
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Although plasma can produce more contrast than L.C.D., it does not always do so. And a plasma's contrast advantage fades away -- literally -- in bright rooms, where the ambient light overpowers dark tones....

After contrast, color saturation and accuracy are the next most important quality factors. Though plasma panels used to beat L.C.D.'s on these measures, the technologies are now about equal....

The fourth criterion is resolution...

The starting point for high-definition is 720 lines, but the pinnacle is 1080p, which has 1,080 lines of 1,920 pixels.

In the end, the scorecard shows a slight advantage for plasma. The panels have higher contrast ratios, wider viewing angles and better display of movement than L.C.D.'s do. But L.C.D.'s perform better in bright light; and they have higher resolution -- for those who can actually see it. On color, the technologies are matched....

The ultimate choice depends largely on where the TV resides and what it displays. ...

But even the differences that do remain are smaller than they used to be. So screen technology is only one factor in choosing a set, along with price, style, brand and the particular level of quality in the particular model.



The only thing for certain is that flat panel will be cheaper and better tomorrow. We have been looking for awhile now and will purchase sometime from Feb through Apr of 07, this should get us next generation, stable technology and low price all in one.
 
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Why won't a Sony Bravia hang on a wall?

It could hang on the wall. I didn't state it correctly: we don't choose to hang it on the wall. Thanks for all the info. It is really helping as my expertise is certainly not in tv's. Amazing how one can really understand computers and not know much about tv, but this is why we have b-boards and knowledgeable friends. I have really learned so much the past couple of days. I have never been a real tv watcher until recently when an injury forced me to me to be more stationary. Now that I am hooked om tv, I want a better view!

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Scotty...what did you buy and where do you live?
 
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Is it just me or have others noticed the different quality of HD broadcasts? For example, the Fox broadcast of the Bears was OK, but when I watched the NBC broadcast of the Denver/NE game the picture quality seemed much better. It could be a number of things, Fox using older equipment plus the fact they have to cover the entire NFC (budget constraints) vs. NBC doing one game of the week.


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Yoss, I am with you on the HD picture thing. It is weird, they should be all broadcasting about the same, but there is a difference. We just bought a 50 inch Plasma, Panasonic. The picture is just phenominal and the set up of the tv on the wall was so easy. After reading the review on the internet and in Consumer Reports, I couldn't pass up the Panasonic.

Go with the Plasma as it is a killer picture.
 
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I've got a Sony 57" rear projection HDTV that I bought in 2002 and I'm itching to upgrade. I'm leaning toward a Sony 60" LCD Bravia, but I think I'm a year away according to the CFO(wife). Heck, she's already got me year end bonus spent on new carpet. Frown


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Heck, she's already got me year end bonus spent on new carpet. Frown


Would those be hand knotted silk or 6X6 squares with sticky on the back?

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Closer to the 6 X 6 squares. From Menards.


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I've got a Sony 57" rear projection HDTV that I bought in 2002 and I'm itching to upgrade. I'm leaning toward a Sony 60" LCD Bravia, but I think I'm a year away according to the CFO(wife). Heck, she's already got me year end bonus spent on new carpet. Frown


I am kind of kicking myself for not going with the 58", but I am still happy I went with the Plasma......
 
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IMJ-Have youseen the 2007 Acura TL, Type-S?

2007 TL Type S


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Is it just me or have others noticed the different quality of HD broadcasts? For example, the Fox broadcast of the Bears was OK, but when I watched the NBC broadcast of the Denver/NE game the picture quality seemed much better. It could be a number of things, Fox using older equipment plus the fact they have to cover the entire NFC (budget constraints) vs. NBC doing one game of the week.


I have noticed the same thing. Last year, Fox's NFL broadcast quality was far above the rest. The picture was incredible. I have noticed a severe downgrade in the quality this year. I am thinking that maybe it is because I'm not watching the prime game of the week. I have also noticed the sound quality is quite variable with the back channels being quite inconsistent.
 
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Scotty...what did you buy and where do you live?


We are still looking. We live north of Roosevelt and south of Hill, why?


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IMJ-Have youseen the 2007 Acura TL, Type-S?

2007 TL Type S


Yoss, that is sick, but I am still ok with my TL. It doesn't make me want to trade it in..........YET........
 
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I'm waiting for the 2009 revision in which I'm certain they will incorporate SH-AWD and over 300+hp.


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Scotty...what did you buy and where do you live?


We are still looking. We live north of Roosevelt and south of Hill, why?


Well, quite frankly, I was going to steal your new television.

I'm glad you didn't narrow it down too closely...or give out your address by mistake like some people around here have.
 
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