I'd say Clam has it about right. I think George Bush is a nice enough person but he doesn't stop people around him from doing very horrible things. He is either clueless about what's really going on until it already happens (which is possible, given his apparent lack of intelligence) or he is complicit which is the same as guilty of evil in my book. I do think I could have a beer with the guy and find him jovial and entertaining but I wouldn't trust him with anything.

I will refrain from agreeing with Clam regarding his opinion of you, Fan.

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Originally posted by Amy:
I'd say Clam has it about right.

Of course you would!! OF COURSE EVERYONE WOULD AGREE WITH CLAM.

my impression of gwb is that of an ultra-rich spoiled brat who (not that) never achieved anything by himself in life -- everything was planned for him and given to him. and now that he has his favorite toy (USA), he won't play fair.

so, yeah, i guess i think gwb is mean. just watching him lean and smirk at the podium will tell you that. body language reveals a lot about people.

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:
my impression of gwb is that of an ultra-rich spoiled brat who (not that) never achieved anything by himself in life -- everything was planned for him and given to him. and now that he has his favorite toy (USA), he won't play fair.

so, yeah, i guess i think gwb is mean. just watching him lean and smirk at the podium will tell you that. body language reveals a lot about people.

Good one ta!!!!!

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Originally posted by GE Fan:

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Originally posted by Amy:
I'd say Clam has it about right.

Of course you would!! OF COURSE EVERYONE WOULD AGREE WITH CLAM.

Sorry Fan, I still love you.

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:
my impression of gwb is that of an ultra-rich spoiled brat who (not that) never achieved anything by himself in life -- everything was planned for him and given to him. and now that he has his favorite toy (USA), he won't play fair.

so, yeah, i guess i think gwb is mean. just watching him lean and smirk at the podium will tell you that. body language reveals a lot about people.

I have often found that it never, ever pays to correct those smarter than you, but here goes. One can stand on a podium, but George would be leaning at the lectern.

God, I wish I didn't have to do that. But as a man who works with words, you needed to know.

yessssssssss, clam...george bush is evil!

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Originally posted by Clamato:

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:

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Originally posted by I like beer:
It's kind of funny that Obama's last name is actually Hussaine not to mention his millde name rhymes with Osama lol.

hysterical. . . btw, what's a "millde" name? oh, and it's hussein, not hussaine.

and btw2, hussein is his millde [sic] name, obama is his last name. where do you get your data?

That's Derrick....from Glen Ellyn cable's smash hit THE Rob and Derrick Experience. He is semi-harmless. He means well. He has a heart of gold.

1.) I think what he meant was his middle name.
2.) It's the Derek and Rob X-perience
3.) If u really need to speculate or player hate then don't hesitate against the "semi harmless" individual who keeps it original.
4.) The world shouldn't vote against someone who has a name that rhymes with a terrorist if they could picture this.

I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to spell Derek. Nonetheless, welcome back. Where have you been?

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Originally posted by Clamato:
I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to spell Derek. Nonetheless, welcome back. Where have you been?

And where is Gus, btw?

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Originally posted by Clamato:

I have often found that it never, ever pays to correct those smarter than you, but here goes. One can stand on a podium, but George would be leaning at the lectern.

God, I wish I didn't have to do that. But as a man who works with words, you needed to know.

thx for the english lesson. . . circa 1969.

1) a podium is also defined as a lectern.

2) please send your post to these guys. who the freak do they think they are misrepresenting a $3,000 lectern as a podium?

as a man who works with words, i also realize it's 2007 -- words and grammar have evolved since we were in grade school. but you already knew that, right? like how a sentence can now begin with a conjunction.

maybe you were taught by nuns and the scars are too deep.

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Originally posted by I like beer:

1.) I think what he meant was his middle name.
2.) It's the Derek and Rob X-perience
3.) If u really need to speculate or player hate then don't hesitate against the "semi harmless" individual who keeps it original.
4.) The world shouldn't vote against someone who has a name that rhymes with a terrorist if they could picture this.

regarding #3: wtf does this even mean? never mind, i don't want to know.

regarding #4: no one should vote "against" anyone. a vote should be cast for someone.

btw, i'm slightly miffed because your original post about obama's name being similar to sadaam's and osama is so NOT "keeping it original," player. it's old, racist hyperbole that i, personally, would prefer not to x-perience. and so i'm keeping it real, bro and virtually jousting w/you.

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:

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Originally posted by Clamato:

I have often found that it never, ever pays to correct those smarter than you, but here goes. One can stand on a podium, but George would be leaning at the lectern.

God, I wish I didn't have to do that. But as a man who works with words, you needed to know.

thx for the english lesson. . . circa 1969.

1) a podium is also defined as a lectern.

2) please send your post to these guys. who the freak do they think they are misrepresenting a $3,000 lectern as a podium?

as a man who works with words, i also realize it's 2007 -- words and grammar have evolved since we were in grade school. but you already knew that, right? like how a sentence can now begin with a conjunction.

maybe you were taught by nuns and the scars are too deep.

I have not been able to pin down precisely when the dictionary set started referring to a lectern as a podium, and I seldom disagree with their work, but in this case they are simply incorrect. Evolution of words aside, and I am a big fan of word evolution, the two words are not synonymous. There are numerous pieces of crap on the web about this. Probably just as many or more that say the opposite. In my mind, a podium is stood on, a lectern is stood behind. I've been wrong on the past. Perhaps even now. The devil is indeed in the details.

Two things: Whenever you two get going on a topic such as this, it reminds me of the movie "The Princess Bride." The character Vizzini frequently exclaims (with a pronounced lisp) the word "in-con-ceivable" until finally Inigo Montoya says to him, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

You two are nearly as entertaining.

Also, Charles Madigan has an interesting article in today's Trib perspective section you may enjoy.

Third thing (oops! )- I noticed when checking "The Princess Bride" on imdb, that Mark Knopfler created the original music for that movie. I'll have revisit that movie and check out the soundtrack.

Did you know that t.a is an accomplished musician? Makes Mark Knopfler look like a child in comparison.

Please, tell us more Clam. It would appear t.a. is not a horn blower - as in braggart, so you'll have to do it for him! What are his musical talents? Does he have anything on YouTube?

Clam, quit acting like a limp noodle. You are right and t.a. needs to say uncle.


LECTERN ETIQUETTE Mistakes to Avoid
When It's Your Turn
at the Lectern
The following article is reprinted with permission from author and
Toastmaster John Stesney, CTM. Nova Toastmasters, District 52.
Lectern vs. Podium
So what's the most embarrassing thing you can do as a Toastmaster?
Blank out, in mid-sentence? Blurt out a four-letter word? Discover you
have spinach between your teeth? Leave your fly open? No, the most
embarrassing thing you can do as a beginning Toastmaster, or even as an
experienced one, is to mistake a lectern for a podium.
I suppose it would be a good idea to explain the difference between the two,
since mistaking them is supposed to be a Bad Thing. A lectern is "a reading
stand for a public speaker." A podium is "an elevated platform for an
orchestra conductor, lecturer, etc." (The definitions are from the American
Heritage dictionary.)
Speakers confuse lecterns and podia all the time, with appalling results. I
remember one speaker who thought a podium was a lectern. She placed her
notes on the podium and had to squat down every time she flipped a page.
When looking down, she had to noticeably squint to read her notes. (I'm
sure her high heels didn't help) She accidentally stepped on her notes too.
I also remember the time a rather bulky male Toastmaster mistook a lectern
for a podium. When he stood on the lectern, it collapsed. So did the table it
was set upon. The Toastmaster took a trip to the emergency room (to treat
his concussion) and never gave a speech again.
Admittedly, these were extreme cases, but even the garden variety "It feels
great to be behind the podium" causes embarrassment. Without fail, an oldschool
Toastmaster will be around, and will bark out "It's not a podium, it's
a lectern." (Toastmasters really are a supportive bunch, and heckling is
NOT encouraged, but for some reason, calling a podium a lectern prompts
this knee-jerk reaction from the old-schoolers.) Then everybody rolls their
eyes and looks uncomfortable. You see this, and suddenly you start to worry
about spinach in your teeth, your fly, and the like.
So avoid it! A good idea is in all cases to say "lectern." Forget the
word "podium" ever existed. This works because just about every
Toastmasters club has a lectern, and virtually none have a podium.
Another approach is to immediately correct yourself:
--"I'm not used to being at the podium especially since this is a lectern.”
--"Don't grip the podium or this lectern, either."
--"I'm feeling more comfortable behind the podium in an alternative
Universe."
Finally, for you advanced speakers, don't use a lectern when you speak!
Not only will you not be tempted to talk about the darn thing, you will
connect better with your audience.
Just don't call a lectern a podium, unless you're trying to distract
your audience from the spinach caught in your teeth.

You are going to have to agree to disagree on this. Definition #2 for both podium and lectern are nearly identical in my dictionary. Yes, #1 for podium is standing on and both for lectern states its use is for placing a speaker's notes.

It had never crossed my mind that the plural for podium was podia!

As you know pictures are worth a thousand words… Maybe this will help

Podium






Lectern





Beach

HA!!