My mistake. Of course the dictionary is wrong and Clam is right!! Ha, ha!!

quote:

Originally posted by Fish:
Clam, quit acting like a limp noodle. You are right and t.a. needs to say uncle.


LECTERN ETIQUETTE Mistakes to Avoid
When It's Your Turn
at the Lectern
The following article is reprinted with permission from author and
Toastmaster John Stesney, CTM. Nova Toastmasters, District 52.
Lectern vs. Podium
So what's the most embarrassing thing you can do as a Toastmaster?
Blank out, in mid-sentence? Blurt out a four-letter word? Discover you
have spinach between your teeth? Leave your fly open? No, the most
embarrassing thing you can do as a beginning Toastmaster, or even as an
experienced one, is to mistake a lectern for a podium.
I suppose it would be a good idea to explain the difference between the two,
since mistaking them is supposed to be a Bad Thing. A lectern is "a reading
stand for a public speaker." A podium is "an elevated platform for an
orchestra conductor, lecturer, etc." (The definitions are from the American Heritage dictionary)
Speakers confuse lecterns and podia all the time, with appalling results. I
remember one speaker who thought a podium was a lectern. She placed her
notes on the podium and had to squat down every time she flipped a page.
When looking down, she had to noticeably squint to read her notes. (I'm
sure her high heels didn't help) She accidentally stepped on her notes too.
I also remember the time a rather bulky male Toastmaster mistook a lectern
for a podium. When he stood on the lectern, it collapsed. So did the table it
was set upon. The Toastmaster took a trip to the emergency room (to treat
his concussion) and never gave a speech again.
Admittedly, these were extreme cases, but even the garden variety "It feels
great to be behind the podium" causes embarrassment. Without fail, an oldschool
Toastmaster will be around, and will bark out "It's not a podium, it's
a lectern." (Toastmasters really are a supportive bunch, and heckling is
NOT encouraged, but for some reason, calling a podium a lectern prompts
this knee-jerk reaction from the old-schoolers.) Then everybody rolls their
eyes and looks uncomfortable. You see this, and suddenly you start to worry
about spinach in your teeth, your fly, and the like.
So avoid it! A good idea is in all cases to say "lectern." Forget the
word "podium" ever existed. This works because just about every
Toastmasters club has a lectern, and virtually none have a podium.
Another approach is to immediately correct yourself:
--"I'm not used to being at the podium especially since this is a lectern.”
--"Don't grip the podium or this lectern, either."
--"I'm feeling more comfortable behind the podium in an alternative
Universe."
Finally, for you advanced speakers, don't use a lectern when you speak!
Not only will you not be tempted to talk about the darn thing, you will
connect better with your audience.
Just don't call a lectern a podium, unless you're trying to distract
your audience from the spinach caught in your teeth.

please note definition #2 provided by the above writer's source: the american heritage dictionary . don't you guys research your material before you post? speaking of which, using an article by toastmaster John Stesney as serious validation? LOL, that's kind of cute.

uncle my a$$. i'll agree to disagree (even though i'm right ).

The good folks at Displays 2 Go could very well be the biggest morons on the face of the earth. Why do you assume they are correct? Maybe they are wrong.

quote:

Originally posted by Clamato:
The good folks at Displays 2 Go could very well be the biggest morons on the face of the earth. Why do you assume they are correct? Maybe they are wrong.

how about the good folks at the american heritage dictionary and dictionary.com? i'm with gemom2. are you really going to argue with the dictionary?

come on, clam. walk away from it.

Only because I like you...I'll put my gun down. I'll rest it on the lectern...and step off the podium. And then I'll walk over to the civic center and try to find out why garbage from CBD apartments is stuffed into garbage cans on our streets.

quote:

Originally posted by Clamato:
Only because I like you...I'll put my gun down. I'll rest it on the lectern...and step off the podium. And then I'll walk over to the civic center and try to find out why garbage from CBD apartments is stuffed into garbage cans on our streets.

you know i hold you on a pedestal, don't you? or is that a podium?. . . i can never remember.

;^p

quote:

Originally posted by t.a. superette:

quote:

Originally posted by Fish:
Clam, quit acting like a limp noodle. You are right and t.a. needs to say uncle.


LECTERN ETIQUETTE Mistakes to Avoid
When It's Your Turn
at the Lectern
The following article is reprinted with permission from author and
Toastmaster John Stesney, CTM. Nova Toastmasters, District 52.
Lectern vs. Podium
So what's the most embarrassing thing you can do as a Toastmaster?
Blank out, in mid-sentence? Blurt out a four-letter word? Discover you
have spinach between your teeth? Leave your fly open? No, the most
embarrassing thing you can do as a beginning Toastmaster, or even as an
experienced one, is to mistake a lectern for a podium.
I suppose it would be a good idea to explain the difference between the two,
since mistaking them is supposed to be a Bad Thing. A lectern is "a reading
stand for a public speaker." A podium is "an elevated platform for an
orchestra conductor, lecturer, etc." (The definitions are from the American Heritage dictionary)
Speakers confuse lecterns and podia all the time, with appalling results. I
remember one speaker who thought a podium was a lectern. She placed her
notes on the podium and had to squat down every time she flipped a page.
When looking down, she had to noticeably squint to read her notes. (I'm
sure her high heels didn't help) She accidentally stepped on her notes too.
I also remember the time a rather bulky male Toastmaster mistook a lectern
for a podium. When he stood on the lectern, it collapsed. So did the table it
was set upon. The Toastmaster took a trip to the emergency room (to treat
his concussion) and never gave a speech again.
Admittedly, these were extreme cases, but even the garden variety "It feels
great to be behind the podium" causes embarrassment. Without fail, an oldschool
Toastmaster will be around, and will bark out "It's not a podium, it's
a lectern." (Toastmasters really are a supportive bunch, and heckling is
NOT encouraged, but for some reason, calling a podium a lectern prompts
this knee-jerk reaction from the old-schoolers.) Then everybody rolls their
eyes and looks uncomfortable. You see this, and suddenly you start to worry
about spinach in your teeth, your fly, and the like.
So avoid it! A good idea is in all cases to say "lectern." Forget the
word "podium" ever existed. This works because just about every
Toastmasters club has a lectern, and virtually none have a podium.
Another approach is to immediately correct yourself:
--"I'm not used to being at the podium especially since this is a lectern.”
--"Don't grip the podium or this lectern, either."
--"I'm feeling more comfortable behind the podium in an alternative
Universe."
Finally, for you advanced speakers, don't use a lectern when you speak!
Not only will you not be tempted to talk about the darn thing, you will
connect better with your audience.
Just don't call a lectern a podium, unless you're trying to distract
your audience from the spinach caught in your teeth.

please note definition #2 provided by the above writer's source: the american heritage dictionary . don't you guys research your material before you post? speaking of which, using an article by toastmaster John Stesney as serious validation? LOL, that's kind of cute.

uncle my a$$. i'll agree to disagree (even though i'm right ).

Interesting to note how stubbornly you stick with an incorrect position.

quote:

Originally posted by Clamato:
I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to spell Derek. Nonetheless, welcome back. Where have you been?

Out having a life which is something ya'll should x-perience not to mention republicans can be the bomb since this post got yo attention.

West side

If you read Drudge as I do, you already know that Hillary will be dropping out of the race any day now. That didn't take long.

quote:

Originally posted by Fish:

Interesting to note how stubbornly you stick with an incorrect position.

that, a polident smile and $17 got me this spiffy ring.

quote:

Originally posted by Amy:

Middlein - did you check out the website? Click on "issues". It gives a good overview of his positions. I think we all know that any candidate can't accomplish EVERYTHING they say they will do but I think his ability to work with people from all political backgrounds is why he will be an excellent president!

FYI, Amy, I did go to Obama's website and read about half of the "issues" pages. In fact, I started writing a lengthy post about what I thought about it but then realized that I was taking it way too seriously and never posted it. Easily 90% of what's on his issues pages could be on the website of all the other candidates, Dem or Republican. (on the order of : As president, I will fight for [insert issue that no one would ever actually fight against])

He did have a few "stances" I disagreed with, but to be honest, its 99.5% likely that I will either a) not be voting for the Dem nominee or b) be sitting on my hands. For example, on labor he supports and will sign into law a bill that would end secret balloting for unionization votes and also end federal oversight of such votes. Imagine being forced to raise your hand at a unionization vote, organized and run by the organizing union, and telling Fat Tony the union boss that you don't want his union.

I also think his Iraq pullout strategy as well as his foreign policy ideas to be a bit naive, but its clear he's appealing to the wing of his party who think that 1) nothing bad will happen if we pull out of Iraq, 2)the U.N. can actually achieve something, and 3) that the nutjob running Iran just hasn't been spoken to properly.

In the end, the guy definitely has "it" and is an inspirational speaker, much better than either of the two Bushes, Gore, Kerry, or Bill Clinton. That's a good skill to have in a President, but I'm not sure if we'll see Obama Republicans like we saw Reagan Democrats.

Both these races are going to be really cool to watch from now till February 5. Hillary hasn't pulled out the daggers yet, and that machine (especially with McCauliffe at the head) can get into the gutter better than anyone. If foreign policy stays at the fore, Obama will still have a tough time given his inexperience. It's amusing to think that if he wins the nomination, he'll probably have to take a VP to give him foreign policy "gravitas", like a certain Republican nominee needed back in 2000.

On the Republican side, I think Thompson is dead in the water, and its a toss up between Romney, McCain, and Huckabee. I've never taken Giuliani seriously in a Republican nomination. He's too far left socially, has the marital baggage, and is a one issue guy. I'd be OK with either Romney, McCain, or Huckabee, although there's something about Romney that's a little too slick. Huckabee, IMHO, is the best speaker overall of the three. I don't know why so many people have an issue with a religious guy in the White House. I mean, Bush is a born-again type, but that really hasn't been an issue. All the venom on this GEBB toward him has been on non-religious issues, hasn't it? I mean, in the end, guys like Falwell are funny distractions, but do you really think anything would come of it? The Congress is too divided for the pendulum to swing too far on any issue.
Which is why my fearless prediction is that we'll be in Iraq well past the 2012 election, regardless of who is elected.

quote:

In the end, the guy definitely has "it" and is an inspirational speaker, much better than either of the two Bushes, Gore, Kerry, or Bill Clinton. That's a good skill to have in a President, but I'm not sure if we'll see Obama Republicans like we saw Reagan Democrats.

Not sure about that...Bill could talk you out of your pants...literally.

quote:

Originally posted by Fish:



Not sure about that...Bill could talk you out of your pants...literally.

Bill Clinton, could talk (and talk and talk), no doubt about it. And he was really good at extemporaneous speaking (or at least appearing extemporaneous). But I never found him inspirational. I'd say Obama is inspirational. I haven't listened enough to him to know/opine about how he is at delivering specific information (Clinton had a good brain for remembering his "facts" and knowing when/how to slip them into his speech). But I think Obama is better at rousing the troops. I mean, how excited were you about the Bridge to the 21st Century?

People in New Hampshire totally lie! I love when they dupe the press and pollsters. That's what makes primary season entertaining.

BTW, t.a., this is a pin, not a ring. Try putting this on your finger and you'll likely draw blood.

Are you with the Town Criers, Clam??

Anyway, the AP has just called it for Clinton. I'm surprised, given the Obama love we've been hearing so much about.

I think we can all just be happy that Edwards, the PI attorney, is effectively out of this thing.

Huckabee wants to make abortion illegal and to prosecute doctors for providing a medical service. That's creepy. Romney believes in a religion that is based on some story about gold plates found buried in upper New York State....wierd. McCain is too old and though I personally have great respect for the guy, he'd bring us more of the same. I don't see how any Republican could possibly get a vote from me - of course I lean Democrat anyway but I'd vote for the right Republican.

I think Obama's foreign policy experience far outweighs the current president who, before elected the first time, had only travelled to Mexico as his foreign experiences. Yes, Hillary has more experience but also more baggage and at this point in our foreign relations, we need a seriously clean slate. Obama won't be able to pull all the troops out immediately but it needs to start happening whether we like it or not. Too bad we can't turn back time and take back the whole Iraq thing from the beginning....

quote:

Originally posted by Amy:
Huckabee wants to make abortion illegal and to prosecute doctors for providing a medical service. That's creepy.

Per Wikipedia, (its on the Internet so it must be true):

quote:

Two polls were released in May of 2007 asking Americans "With respect to the abortion issue, would you consider yourself to be pro-choice or pro-life?" May 4th through 6th, a CNN poll found 45% said pro-choice and 50% said pro-life.[15] Within the following week, a Gallup poll found 49% responding pro-choice and 45% pro-life. [16]

If you start with the supposition, as many pro-lifers do, that abortion is the ending of a human life, I think it follows logically to make such an action illegal. Calling it a medical service wouldn't relieve the violation of the human right. In any event, it appears more logical than creepy to me.

If you start with the supposition that the fetus is not a human life, or that a Mother's rights trump those of the fetus, then all bets are off, I suppose.

I just listened to a bit of Obama's speech tonight while typing that last response. The guy just has great pacing. I didn't see the teleprompter thingies, so I assume it was pseudo-off the cuff. He does that repeated-phrase technique really well.

Hillary is on now. Totally different speech than Obama. She's reading off her script. Sounds like she's appealing to the Edwards voters. Big oil, big bad insurance companies and a new one - predatory student loan companies . Her suit looks like a grandmother's upholstrey.

Anyway, not in Obama's league speaking wise.

I'm not sure a Republican can win in November, but I think they'd much prefer to go up against Hillary. I don't think she'll ever get over her ice queen / bit*h persona.

Maybe if she starts crying!!!!!