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Already blessed with 6 children but who in their right mind would take the chance with fertility drugs to spawn octuplets without a husband or so called "life partner" to assist??? What is wrong with this world?
 
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I think she's hoping for a reality TV show.
 
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Medical ethics....out the window. Let's pump this nut job up with more drugs so she can add to her massive brood. Seemed like a good idea at the time. I can only hope that Oprah will adopt her and fund her awesome lifestyle.
 
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It's a womb, not a clown car.


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Yoss, that is HYSTERICAL! Smile

I think this definitely raises ethical concerns. I cannot imagine a physician implanting that many eggs in a woman who has clearly been capable of having children. I saw an interview this morning with the Today Show's medical expert (her name escapes me at the moment) and she stated that typically the maximum number of eggs implanted are two or three. When does someone's religious or just personal belief cross the line of tapping too many resources unnecessarily????
 
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Personally, that many children sound like a nightmare to take care of. But, I must say, I am a bit stunned at the media attention this has received, and all the negativety associated with it. It's almost like the media wants to stone this mother for having more kids than she can take care of, and drag her through the public mud. I think that's wrong, for the sake of the children, who have no idea what life is like, and only want to figure out how to eat, sleep, and poop. Who knows what these kids will grow up to become. For example, our new President. I think we as a society are crossing a shameful line by scrutinizing this woman. Clearly there is something different about her. But, I think that's a matter for her own private circle to address, not Fox News, Today Show, CNN, etc...
 
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nc211, I actually kind of agree. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter what I think or what most of us think. But the discussion of ethics that this prompts is probably worth having, at least within the community of physicians who practice artificial insemination - regardless of the person or babies involved.

I do hope they are happy and healthy no matter how concerned I am about how difficult it might be to raise that many children....
 
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Of course, everyone hopes the children are all healthy, but isn't there some risk that eight children in utero at once lessen the chances of any or all of them being healthy? Before anyone even considers the family situation, isn't it less than ideal for a child to be born pre-term? And isn't it more likely that a child will be pre-term as a multiple? The ethic involved must address the health of the babies and I can't imagine that implanting eight emybryos is ideal.
 
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If your someone who can support all these children and provide a stable enviornment, then go for it. If you are limited means (say like in bankruptcy)and clearly a bit unstable, then I don't see why she is allowed to continue to put out kids. What kind of quality of life will these children have? Who gets to pick up the dime for her kids care?


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Ultimately, it's the responsible people of the world that have to pay for this wacko's choice in breeding a brood.


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I'm all for reproductive rights (which means, I don't tell you what to do with your womb, and you don't tell me what to do with mine), but - yeah. This is really questionable. The thing is, I don't think the government should have to pay the tab to raise these children. And it sounds as if that's exactly what will probably happen. Counseling is available for women who consider terminating pregnancies; what about for women who are clearly mentally and financially unable to care for children, yet go to extreme measures to continue to have more and more? This is not an unplanned pregnancy. I'm inclined to agree, that the doctor who implanted these embryos should be investigated.
 
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I think we as a society are crossing a shameful line by scrutinizing this woman. Clearly there is something different about her.


Not criticizing the woman as it is readily apparent that she does not deserve society's scorn, rather every bit of professional help we can muster.

My criticism goes to the doctor. And I would have a difficult time being convinced differently.
 
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i heard the hospital bill will be 3mil. i hope california (state of, also broke) goes after that doctor for malpractise. it's possible he only implanted 2-3 fert. eggs, and that due to the drugs she was on they may have divided...but still...he/she was negletful to treat this woman AT ALL!!!
 
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It's a womb, not an ATM.


"Everyone thinks their opinion matters. Don't argue with a nobody. A farmer doesn't bother telling a pig his breath smells like s***."

 
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I love the ad placement for "1 Flat Belly Rule" embedded in the story. Roll Eyes

Any compensation package media types pay her should have at least part of it held in trust for these children's future. And someone should tell her that simply gestating children does not qualify one as a "childcare expert."
 
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Remember the old Andrew "Dice" Clay bit? Where he made rude on old nursery rhymes?

"There was an old lady who lived in a shoe, she had so many children that her uterus fell out!"

Was among the only "printable" one.
 
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I blame this fully on shows like that horrible Jon and Kate Plus 8, and the other one with the busload of children. I hate these shows; it seems not at all different from the days when the Dionne Quintuplets were displayed at the World's Fair for $$. (And for me personally, personally the idea of having more than one kid for each hand was terrifying and the reason why Proud Hubby had a scheduled outpatient surgery about a week after our 2nd child was born.)

But - you take a woman who obviously needs some psychiatric counseling, who watches shows like this and thinks, "Hey - I can do that, too! All I need is a whole lot of children, and suddenly I'll get my own TV show and book deal and endorsement deal!"

It's Reality TV combined with our Super Sized American Culture at its worst.
 
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Originally posted by scribbler:
Proud Hubby had a scheduled outpatient surgery about a week after our 2nd child was born


When he completed 50% of the surgery, was he "half vas'd?"


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
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Reality shows are cheap....and not the slightest bit real as anyone in the biz will tell you. The one I hate the most is that horrific little people show. Regardless of size...they make me ill.
 
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