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Originally posted by Clamato:
Why is he wrong?


I always loved Justice Douglas. Especially his choice in wives. From his opinion in Lambert:

"The rule that "ignorance of the law will not excuse" (Shevlin-Carpenter Co. v. Minnesota, supra, at 218 U. S. 68) is deep in our law, as is the principle that, of all the powers of local government, the police power is "one of the least limitable." District of Columbia v. Brooke, 214 U. S. 138, 214 U. S. 149. On the other hand, due process places some limits on its exercise. Engrained in our concept of due process is the requirement of notice. Notice is sometimes essential so that the citizen has the chance to defend charges. Notice is required before property interests are disturbed, before assessments are made, before penalties are assessed. Notice is required in a myriad of situations where a penalty or forfeiture might be suffered for mere failure to act"


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
William James
 
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Ignorance of the law excuses some.
 
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Everyone has constructive notice of the ordinance. I don't get Mr. RMK's post, but I'm sure I missed something, somewhere on this ridiculous thread.


What part of "no" don't you understand?
 
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It is not a Glen Ellyn Police officer. It is one from a neighboring town. It is, our local Police who never seem to give him a ticket, or to notice his lack of village stickers.
 
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To the original poster- as adults we need to take acountability for ourselves. It is not the Village's job (although it would be nice) to knock on your door when you move in and tell you the laws. I see the laws in the newsletters, downtown kiask etc.
Changing your vehicle license plate does not notify the local town that you moved in. It has nothing to do with vehicle stickers.
Stop the whining, buy the sticker and educate yourself about the wonderful Village you moved into.
 
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To the original poster- as adults we need to take acountability for ourselves. It is not the Village's job (although it would be nice) to knock on your door when you move in and tell you the laws.
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Stop the whining, buy the sticker and educate yourself about the wonderful Village you moved into.


It really would be nice if the village would simply put all of such information new residents might need and make it available in some obvious location. Like maybe set up a village website that contains a quick link called something obscure like, I don't know, maybe New Residents.

It is not as tho this information is displayed in a locked filing cainet in the basement of the local planning office . . . Wink
 
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Thank you GElover and Dinsdale for posting on this thread. It reminded me to make good on an info request! Village Management has provided the following information.

The village's current FY09/10 budget has $350,000 identified for vehicle sticker revenue. Program costs, including administrative time (salary, taxes, benefits) are 10 to 15%.

This does not include any revenue or expense from the Police side of the equation (enforcement activity, fines collected for violations, etc.).

In March of 2005 the village began offering a three-year sticker option. This has lead to greater variability in projected revenues each year due to the fact that the village will not see renewals on three-year purchasers each year. This does, to a degree, help reduce processing costs since the village does not interface with multi-year subscribers each year.

I hope this helps. Thank you for the question.

Mark
 
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Thank you for the answer, Village President Mark Pfefferman. Sounds like a miniature cash cow for the village...a cash calf, if you will. I wonder why a similar-sized town like Villa Park stopped requiring auto stickers citing the large expense of administering the program? Can't imagine their costs are any different than ours.
 
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So $350K divided by $25 per sticker = 14K cars.

Does that impress anyone as a high or low estimate of the vehicles owned by our town's 27k residents?

I initially thought it high, but on second thought there are probably more kids and 1-car households than more-than-2-car households.
 
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Ridiculous.

$350,000 gross - ≈12.5% overhead ($43 750) = 306 250 net profit or ≈ $30.60/household.

Just add that to the property tax, Mark, and save us that wasted $43 750.
 
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I'd say that is a genius ROI, Gabe...and it keeps some cashiers busy. Figure out a way to duplicate it...not get rid of it.
 
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Disdale, your math is fuzzy. If you buy the 3 year sticker the average price per year for the sticker is $23.33......thus, yielding more cars. Smile


Wait a minute. Am I to understand that you keep cars for three years? How plebian.
 
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