But, your buddy Gus just did that and much, much more to further his personal politics by digging up all that information on lionheart. - Frankly, I welcome that. I'm kind of modest about going around and promoting my site so I'm more than happy to have someone else give me a plug. I also have nothing to hide and stand by my comments. And as someone once said, "there is no such thing as bad publicity." And he didn't do that much digging. My personal GEBB profile has my site's URL, and a simple google search will turn up my Pelosi quote which identifies my membership in MPJC.
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Originally posted by jombl: Because Lionheart has been very open about his art and his politics, I've even had lengthy and personal email correspondence with him in the past. I actually enjoy his take, although I have recently thought that he's become less introspective in this round of elections, be that as it may, Lionheart has been, as one would expect any good political artist of his caliber, quite confident and proud of his personal work.
I have no recollection of a lengthy and personal email correspondence with Jombl. I have had discussions on other boards with other names, but no Jombl. Hmmm . . . wait a minute, are you ToxicDan?
Posts: 216 | Location: Now in CA | Registered: April 07, 2003
I have no recollection of a lengthy and personal email correspondence with Jombl. I have had discussions on other boards with other names, but no Jombl. Hmmm . . . wait a minute, are you ToxicDan?
No problem. Here's a snippet from the series, this is from one of your letters to me:
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Yes, we do have more in common than first appears...
Posts: 2515 | Location: Glen Ellyn, Il | Registered: September 23, 2003
The last two mornings, I've noticed someone (I'm guessing not the boy scouts) has set up a nifty little campsite next to the bike racks west of the train station. Our own little KOA. Is camping legal on that property?
Originally posted by Ted E.: Okay... new rule. Until further notice, let's keep religion off the board. Especially as it relates to personal beliefs and opinions regarding the clergy of local houses of worship... pro or con.
I know that makes for a fuzzy line between what is and is not appropriate. But trust me: I'll know it when I see it. --TedE
As long as we are forbidding topics on this BB, can I request that we also agree never to discuss tomatoes? The religion and politics are bad enough, but I just couldn’t bear reading and discussing tomatoes.
Originally posted by Gus: Hey Lion, I might buy a piece of artwork if you tone it down a little. How about a soup can or a renditon of Big Sur???
- I once did a toon of Bill Clinton hitting on Laura Bush you might enjoy.
I also work in other media. I draw cartoon characters and toys, and my photographs are the envy of dozens. Some used to be online for display, but I never tried to sell any. Besides, there's no money in selling prints. You need a publisher or syndication, and I've struck out so far.
To keep this post on topic, I object to the banning of religious discussion. There needs to be some opposition to the evengelicizing that goes on in this country. We atheists are a persecuted minority. People talk about how historic this year is because a woman or a black man has a chance to become president. I doubt if America will be ready for a candidate who's an atheist for another thousand years.
Posts: 216 | Location: Now in CA | Registered: April 07, 2003
Originally posted by Lionheart: I doubt if America will be ready for a candidate who's an atheist for another thousand years.
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"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson did not accept Christ as a deity, and was therefore not a Christian. He was often accused of being an atheist; his religious ideas are absolutely fascinating.
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"I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know."
T.J.
What Jefferson did was remove all the interpretation and supernatural events from the Bible - he rewrote it:
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In extracting the pure principles which he taught, we should have to strip off the artificial vestments in which they have been muffled by priests, who have travestied them into various forms, as instruments of riches and power to themselves. We must dismiss the Platonists and Plotinists, the Stagyrites and Gamalielites, the Eclectics, the Gnostics and Scholastics, their essences and emanations, their logos and demiurges, aeons and daemons, male and female, with a long train of … or, shall I say at once, of nonsense. We must reduce our volume to the simple evangelists, select, even from them, the very words only of Jesus, paring off the amphibologisms into which they have been led, by forgetting often, or not understanding, what had fallen from him, by giving their own misconceptions as his dicta, and expressing unintelligibly for others what they had not understood themselves. There will be found remaining the most sublime and benevolent code of morals which has ever been offered to man. I have performed this operation for my own use, by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging the matter which is evidently his, and which is as easily distinguishable as diamonds in a dunghill. The result is an octavo of forty-six pages, of pure and unsophisticated doctrines.
...I object to the banning of religious discussion...
My intent was not to ban all discussion relating to religious issues in general -- policies and procedures on a grand scale are certainly fair game. But I do not feel that this is a proper forum for discussing the sermons an other teachings of local clergy that are designed to be shared with a self-selected congregation.
And no, just because such internal opinions may posted elsewhere on the internet... doesn't make them suitable for reposting here. --TEdE
Posts: 1371 | Location: Glen Ellyn, IL USA | Registered: March 21, 2003
I think I would call Jefferson a deist. People may have hung the word atheist on him simply because he rejected all other forms of organized religion. One can reject the concept of god as being a sentient being and still not be an atheist.
I am editing this to correct my use of the wrong word. I think Jefferson was a pantheist, not a deist.
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