We're teeny -tiny too. 50x100. We'd need variances to do anything. When we bought the house, we have another pin for the few feet behind our garage, the few feet that extends our garage to allow for the hood of our car. (I believe the garage was for buggy or model T cars). Thus we have two tax bills. The few feet amount to very little $$, like under $50.00. The recorder said they can help combine it, I've just been lazy to go do it. Our house/property about 12% increase, little lot behind garage, 11.86%. So both about 12% increase.

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Originally posted by GESince1958:

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_{Originally posted by bitterboy:
Are there even any 40x150 lots in GE with a residence on it?}

Yes. Read up a bit.

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_{Originally posted by jombl:
'58, you should do a swap with ComEd for the 1.36 acres at PIN 05-03-100-011 that's only worth 30,920 or the 1.8 acres next to it worth only 40,690.}

Deal! Mrs.58 will enjoy the larger gardening area the 1.8 acre lot would offer. It would also increase the distance on the south side of our house from the unruly neighbor kids. On the flip side this would mean more leaves to rake and more lawn to mow. Oh well.

58,

Take of a few of the lots you found and divide their total $ assessment (land only) by the lot's total sf. This will give you $ per sq ft, which you can then use to compare to yours. Theoretically, those others should be assessed more because they will more than likely contain added improvements like a garage, possibly a deck etc. If for any reason your's is more or even close, I think you may have good grounds for an appeal. Let me know what you come up with.

Also take a look at the one's JOMBL found or other lots that are vacant, you can compare $ increase per sf of land too. Make sure they are within your taxing neighborhood though.

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Originally posted by bitterboy:

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Originally posted by GESince1958:

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_{Originally posted by bitterboy:
Are there even any 40x150 lots in GE with a residence on it?}

Yes. Read up a bit.

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_{Originally posted by jombl:
'58, you should do a swap with ComEd for the 1.36 acres at PIN 05-03-100-011 that's only worth 30,920 or the 1.8 acres next to it worth only 40,690.}

Deal! Mrs.58 will enjoy the larger gardening area the 1.8 acre lot would offer. It would also increase the distance on the south side of our house from the unruly neighbor kids. On the flip side this would mean more leaves to rake and more lawn to mow. Oh well.

58,

Take of a few of the lots you found and divide their total $ assessment (land only) by the lot's total sf. This will give you $ per sq ft, which you can then use to compare to yours. Theoretically, those others should be assessed more because they will more than likely contain added improvements like a garage, possibly a deck etc. If for any reason your's is more or even close, I think you may have good grounds for an appeal. Let me know what you come up with.

Also take a look at the one's JOMBL found or other lots that are vacant, you can compare $ increase per sf of land too. Make sure they are within your taxing neighborhood though.

That taxing neighborhood concept is a bunch of bull$hit. I may have told this story before, but I moved about 1 mile away from my first house in GE. Same school district and slightly closer to the CBD (central Bum district). The second house was bigger, but about 100 years older. Here's the kicker. I spent exactly $130,500 more for the second house than I received from the sale of the first house. Tax bill on first house about $8,000. Tax bill on second house $18K+. Theoretically, that means if I could find a condo for $130,500 in town, it should have a tax bill of 10K. The CLEA to Milton Township means Completely Loot Everyone's Assets.

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Originally posted by Fish:

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Originally posted by bitterboy:

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Originally posted by GESince1958:

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_{Originally posted by bitterboy:
Are there even any 40x150 lots in GE with a residence on it?}

Yes. Read up a bit.

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_{Originally posted by jombl:
'58, you should do a swap with ComEd for the 1.36 acres at PIN 05-03-100-011 that's only worth 30,920 or the 1.8 acres next to it worth only 40,690.}

Deal! Mrs.58 will enjoy the larger gardening area the 1.8 acre lot would offer. It would also increase the distance on the south side of our house from the unruly neighbor kids. On the flip side this would mean more leaves to rake and more lawn to mow. Oh well.

58,

Take of a few of the lots you found and divide their total $ assessment (land only) by the lot's total sf. This will give you $ per sq ft, which you can then use to compare to yours.
Theoretically, those others should be assessed more because they will more than likely contain added improvements like a garage, possibly a deck etc. If for any reason your's is more or even close, I think you may have good grounds for an appeal. Let me know what you come up with.

Also take a look at the one's JOMBL found or other lots that are vacant, you can compare $ increase per sf of land too. Make sure they are within your taxing neighborhood though.

That taxing neighborhood concept is a bunch of bull$hit. I may have told this story before, but I moved about 1 mile away from my first house in GE. Same school district and slightly closer to the CBD (central Bum district). The second house was bigger, but about 100 years older. Here's the kicker. I spent exactly $130,500 more for the second house than I received from the sale of the first house. Tax bill on first house about $8,000. Tax bill on second house $18K+. Theoretically, that means if I could find a condo for $130,500 in town, it should have a tax bill of 10K. The CLEA to Milton Township means Completely Loot Everyone's Assets.

The whole concept of taxing someone's "supposed" unrealized gains is bull$hit. But I haven't seen the taxing rate yet, this will be what really matters. Do you think that the county may realize people are getting wise to voting down referendums; therefore, will force people to pay extra by jacking up either assessed values or taxing rates? Just a thought.

Milton's tactics are underhanded, no doubt. When I appealed my taxes at the County level, the township's assessor used homes across the street in defense of an argument I had posed. Every single house she used was in a different taxing neighborhood. They violated their very own rule, yet was allowed to get away with it. I'll see if I can find that rule. Also, I argued land only, not building. My building actually is assessed in the lower middle when compared to most others. The Milton Assessor tried to argue that because my building is lower (not really, it's where it should be) it nets against my land which is significantly higher and it all works out. This is crap. Also at my hearing, the County openly admitted not reviewing all the evidence I had submitted including a video and photos. I still can't believe this. Funny thing is in 2005, the County stopped taping its hearings.

At my hearing with the State (taped), the attorney for the State caught onto this and called her out. The very same questions that I had put in a certified letter to the County (that they never responded to), the State asked Milton point blank. Milton had no answer. The State questioned Milton's tactics, such as their use of "site value" and how, when and why it's applied to certain properties too. Milton tried to introduce evidence at my hearing which had previously been undisclosed to me. The State ridiculed them for this too. Maybe this was all show, but I thought my hearing went very well and that the State had agreed with me. But time will tell.

I'm with JOMBL, something isn't right here. Milton needs to be audited.

And remember folks, that nifty little phase in goes on, and on, and on, and on, courtesy of D41. You aint seen nothing yet.

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_{Originally posted by bitterboy:
Theoretically, those others should be assessed more because they will more than likely contain added improvements like a garage, possibly a deck etc. If for any reason your's is more or even close, I think you may have good grounds for an appeal. Let me know what you come up with.}

Our other lot does have a garage. But it also has the same garage for the last 30 years. So nothing is different, except Milton's guiltless greed.

~+8% here in the glen ellyn manor district...

+41%. 113k to 160K .

Hiding under the radar too long, Fish, or do I have a shot
at getting it lowered?

And if there is a big hole in the ground in my backyard will
they take pity or throw the book at me?

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Originally posted by Main Streeter:
+41%. 113k to 160K .

Hiding under the radar too long, Fish, or do I have a shot
at getting it lowered?

And if there is a big hole in the ground in my backyard will
they take pity or throw the book at me?

I see that you decided to pop your paddle cherry today! I'd lay low if I were you. I've seen that MONSTER ADDITION going up at casa del goobie. I don't think Milton will take too kindly to your complaints right now.

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Originally posted by Fish:
I see that you decided to pop your paddle cherry today!

You don't hear that every day....

OK - I have a question. My assessed value went up 19%, BUT when we moved in in 2005 we had some kind of temporary improvement discount because the people before us had put a second floor on the house in 2002. That discount is now expired (I was not in the dark about this - I knew it was coming) and we are now on board for the full boat in taxes. I can almost guarantee that the value of our house has gone down since our '05 purchase, but we've had two $1 million+ homes go up on the block in the last 9 months alone. Would these new houses make appealing the extra 9% increase worthless?

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Originally posted by Mamattorney:
OK - I have a question. My assessed value went up 19%, BUT when we moved in in 2005 we had some kind of temporary improvement discount because the people before us had put a second floor on the house in 2002. That discount is now expired (I was not in the dark about this - I knew it was coming) and we are now on board for the full boat in taxes. I can almost guarantee that the value of our house has gone down since our '05 purchase, but we've had two $1 million+ homes go up on the block in the last 9 months alone. Would these new houses make appealing the extra 9% increase worthless?

We missed you. First rule of motion practice: you can't get told no unless you ask. Unless you file specious motions like Potts.

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Originally posted by Mamattorney:
I can almost guarantee that the value of our house has gone down since our '05 purchase, but we've had two $1 million+ homes go up on the block in the last 9 months alone. Would these new houses make appealing the extra 9% increase worthless?

Guarantee is no good unless it's in writing. If you feel strongly about this get an appraisal and use it to file an appeal.

Also, how did you come up with 9%?

I guess I should be happy.....
My home is assessed for almost $70,000.00 less than I paid for it in August 2007. Still an 11% increase over last year.

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Originally posted by bitterboy:

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Originally posted by Mamattorney:
I can almost guarantee that the value of our house has gone down since our '05 purchase, but we've had two $1 million+ homes go up on the block in the last 9 months alone. Would these new houses make appealing the extra 9% increase worthless?

Guarantee is no good unless it's in writing. If you feel strongly about this get an appraisal and use it to file an appeal.

Also, how did you come up with 9%?

I believe my five year home improvement reduction was 10%. I just took it off the total 19% increase.

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Originally posted by PleasantHome:
I guess I should be happy.....
My home is assessed for almost $70,000.00 less than I paid for it in August 2007. Still an 11% increase over last year.

Or could feel really really unhappy....as you just significantly overpaid for your house.

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Originally posted by JRPotts:

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Originally posted by PleasantHome:
I guess I should be happy.....
My home is assessed for almost $70,000.00 less than I paid for it in August 2007. Still an 11% increase over last year.

Or could feel really really unhappy....as you just significantly overpaid for your house.

Exactly..........

+~5% for us.
And in my experience, in the past the village has had absolutely no qualms about granting variances to tear down and build on <50' lots for no reason other than the owner's economic advantage, despite the fact that the relevant ordinance expressly prohibits such practice.
I love this town!