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Originally posted by JustAResident:


After I read this I forgot to laugh. You need to clean up your original post then. First you wonder why GD is sponsoring the event, then trail off into muttering questions. If you are going to question groups, name them. It's not like you are making statements with your real name.

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His business is located here, it pays significant fees to the village in the course of normal operation. His end product generates property, sales AND exit taxes for the village. Few individuals have probably generated more tax revenue for Glen Ellyn. The village's take on the party would pale in comparison.

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Originally posted by GE Fan:
Like I've said 100 times, I have no desire to be anything. I want nothing out of this Village but it to be a great place for my kids and my family. I don't need any more friends, I don't need any more business, I just want a great and safe place to live, raise my family and retire. That's it.

And what I wrote above - I meant all of it. Just ask Candidate, 4MP and others. I've never wavered in that opinion.

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Originally posted by GE Fan:

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Why is it not looked at as the power of a few like I see it, rather that the power of many?

See answer above. But to expound on that, anyone can go to the town meeting and get nominated from the floor. ANYONE. So it really is power of many.

I would love to see the CBP continue. However, I'm not so sure it can in the short term unless the CBP makes a concerted push to include everyone and inform everyone....starting soon. If I were a candidate who wanted to run in 2009, there is no chance that I would avail myself of the CBP as it currently exists. Rightly or wrongly, you would get crushed. I worry that even progressive and popular candidates who avail themselves of the CBP, and get through the town meeting, will get picked off by other independent candidates a la what Candidate did in the last election.

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Originally posted by JL Gotrocks:
If anyone wants to run against them in the general election in a few months they are free to do so.
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by Middlein87



According t o the Sore Loser law that Fan posted in the other thread, anyone who lost out on the CBP nomination is NOT allowed to run in the general election.

That makes it quite risky to actually run for the CBP nomination against a candidate(s) who is(are) a favorite of the President of the CBP. As a reading of the by-laws will indicate, the President effectively controls 9 out of the 11 votes needed to choose Nominees to be voted on at the Town Meeting. So if you are not favored by the President of the CBP, you have a slim chance of being put forth as a Nominee for a vote. You can still mount a dark horse race at the Town Meeting. But good luck, as this Ledaisic guy found out.

I think it is important for people to know that if they try to win the CBP nomination, they are disqualifying themselves as running as an Independent in the general election. I had no idea there was such a law, and I tend to doubt that the CBP makes that known to applicants. Any idea on that score, Fan?

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Originally posted by taxpayer:
Good grief this make the Politburo look transparent and understandable.


Posted by Middlein87:

OK, the comments on this thread made me say "no way does it work that way" so I read through the CBP by-laws. I read them again. And then I read them again.

The process seems to go like this: At the previous town meeting (two years ago), Voters chose the officers of the CPB. The by-laws seem to indicate that this is the one truly open nomination/election procdure at the Town Meeting. That is, you can nominate any Village resident to be an officer on the day of the Town Meeting and they can be elected (certain term limits notwithstanding). The Voters at the meeting also nominate/elect 8 people to sit on the next Nominating Committee.

No later than September 1 before the the next Village election, the 8 elected members of the Nominating Committee join with the 5 elected CBP officers and with 8 other Appointed (by the President) members of the nominating Committee. Thats a total of 21 members of the Committee. These 21 folks then solicit candidates for the Village positions, do interviews, etc. At the end of that process, they present NOT LESS THAN two candidates for voting at the Town Meeting (that is to say, 2 candidates for Village President - if there are 4 Village board seats open, they present at least 8 candidates to be voted on at the Town Meeting). The names are publicized 5 weeks before the Town meeting. If anyone else wants to be presented at the meeting for voting, whether they've been through the nominating committee or not, they must submit notice to the CBP 4 weeks prior to the meeting. So, at the meeting, you cannot nominate Joe Schmoe from the floor. The CBP must be notified at least 4 weeks in advance.

That is the process as best as I can decipher it. As you can see, if you're into conspiracy theories, the President of the CBP has his/her own vote on the Committee plus 8 other hand picked members. That's 9 of 21 votes eseentially in the hands of the president. BUT, if anyone can amass a large bloc of supporters, they can get the official CBP backing if they just submit their candidate's name 4 weeks ahead of the meeting.

It is probably a useless process that could be replaced by a candidates forum held by any civic group, but I don't see it as particularly nefarious on paper. I don't know how it works out in reality.


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Posted November 29, 2006 10:17 AM Hide Post
Middlein87 - You have it right. Plus or minus a few insignificant details.

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Posted November 29, 2006 10:21 AM Hide Post
Oh. One possible change to that explanation. The officers of the CBP have 4 year terms, so this current group may have been elected 4 years ago, not two. The elected and appointed members of the committee have two year terms and are term limited to 1 term.

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Originally posted by gotrocks:

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Originally posted by JustAResident:

Gotrocks- if you are refering to Go Downtown! then I think you need to take another look at the group.

JAR

I'm glad you think that GE revolves around GD. You take credit where credit is not due. Did GD invent the internet too?

GD will tell you that I have been scathing in my criticism of their delivery. Sometimes they push harder than they need to. However, the passion is important.

Unfortunately, in this community, the reaction of the entrenched is a sniff when the great unwashed get it into their heads that power should evolve. It's a new day. Every 40 years or so, there is a shift in the demographic which causes a seismic shift in the attitude of the electorate. 1928. 1968. 2008.

The attitude of the entrenched seems to be: Why don't you nice girls in GD just sit in the corner until it's your turn to take control of the community. And let's sand down those rough edges. They really do scratch when you bump up against us long timers.

The Arboretum (a regional treasure) is so close to south Glen Ellyn as to be part of us. Come join some of us progressives (don't you Republicans just hate that?) and let's see if we can relive some of our youth - when we questioned authority. And I don't think the donation is subject to sales tax.

POST EDITED SO THAT MY CLUMSY ATTEMPT AT SARCASM CAN BE UNDERSTOOD. AND CLAM WAS THROWING THE MARTINI AT BITTERBOY AND SPILLED IT ON HIMSELF.

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And Bitterboy...I apologize! I wrote my post before reading yours. But c'mon...I did add sales and exit taxes to the mix!

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Originally posted by middlein87:


Fan went on to say, effectively, "screw 'em" if they don't know about that law.