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This will interest all on the GEBB. Please be careful out there.


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
William James
 
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Now she can add another item to her "Community Activist" record. From the Buffalo Grove website:

1998-1999 Prairie PTO Secretary
1999-2000 Ivy Hall PTO Vice President
1999-2000 Willow Grove PTO Secretary
1999-2000 Champions Extended Learning - Parent Liaison
1999-2000 PTO Gift Wrap Co-Chair
2000-2001 Ivy Hall PTO Co-President
2001-2002 District Search Conference Member
2001-2002 District Co-Chair Respect & Responsibility Design Team
2001-2002 PTO Entertainment Book Co-Chair
2002-2003 Twin Groves PTO Teacher Appreciation Co-Chair
2003-2004 Twin Groves PTO Teacher Appreciation Co-Chair
1999-2001 "Penny's Angels" benefiting Leukemia Research Foundation - Executive Board Member
2007 CURED (Campaign Urging Research for Eosinophilic Disease Fundraising) Committee Member
1989, 1999, 2009 Niles West Reunion Committee

I am refraining from making any editorial comment on her CV, as much as I'd like to. I am just a little afraid of her internet reach!
 
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1999-2000 PTO Gift Wrap Co-Chair...that.....is.......CLASSIC!

I think I have finally found someone whose resume is more laughable than my own.
 
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Next stop Governor of Alaska
 
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Although claimed in part to be a “free Speech” issue, this isn't. The First Amendment applies only to public property; the Daily herald web site is privately owned.

In any case, there are limits to Free Speech — shouting “fire!” in a crowded theater, impersonating a police officer, etc.

This is more of a liable (printed) / slander (spoken) issue. Although elected officials and other public figures have less protection in matters of liable and slander than private citizens, they do have some rights.

In my opinion. —Ted E.
 
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I don't believe there is any mention of anonymity in the First Amendment, either.
 
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2001-2002 District Co-Chair Respect & Responsibility Design Team


Huh?


"Everyone thinks their opinion matters. Don't argue with a nobody. A farmer doesn't bother telling a pig his breath smells like s***."

 
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I don't think the first amendment applies strictly to public property.

Most newspapers, the press are in private hands and they're protected by the first amendment.

The public part would be in the establishing or promoting of a religion.

As for anonymity, the press has been able to keep confidential information including sources confidential.

If you look at our countries early history many of our founding fathers regularly wrote letters in various newspapers anonymously or using pen names.
 
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I am liable to never, ever, spell “ libel ” correctly. —Ted E.
 
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Originally posted by taxpayer:
I don't think the first amendment applies strictly to public property.

Most newspapers, the press are in private hands and they're protected by the first amendment.

The public part would be in the establishing or promoting of a religion.


Uh - you might want to give it another read . . .

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
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I was thinking of using public or maybe more accurately government property to display or promote religious beliefs.
 
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...Just let's not start quartering soldiers, here...
 
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Originally posted by Ted E.:
Although claimed in part to be a “free Speech” issue, this isn't. The First Amendment applies only to public property; the Daily herald web site is privately owned.


I'm not sure it's that simple. The first amendment applies to government action in general. In this case the courts are being used to force a private media company to release the name of an anonymous commenter. Maybe you have no sympathy for this commenter in this situation but what if it was a whistle blower commenting on a corrupt relationship between a judge and a policitician. Would you be so quick to say that there's no first amendment issue involved in the judge weilding the power of the government to force the paper reveal the identity of someone posting a comment on its privately run message board. That starts to look a lot more like censorship. The paper may publish all the names of every commenter any time it wants just as Ted can. The issue is that the government is choosing who to force the paper to do so. This can have a chilling effect on public commentary. Doubt it? The name of this thread is "posters beware" as in beware of what you post about public officials, if they don't like it they can claim it's defamatory and get a judge to force Ted to give them your IP address and e-mail.

To summarize, if you worry about the newspaper or Ted revealing your identity, that's prudence. If you have to worry about the goverment forcing them to reveal your identity, that's a potential first amendment issue.
 
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According to Din's post, I still see nothing stating anything about strictly public property. There are inferences to be made, but there's nothing in black and white about public or private, it simply says "free exercise thereof".

In addition, the website may be privately owned, but it's posted on the highly public internet. Based on Trademark and Copyright internet laws, posting something in a public forum leaves it open for public scrutiny.


Should I give up, or should I just keep chasing pavements....even if it leads nowhere - Adele
 
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RMK
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Judge rules for disclosure.

Now, who is not surprised Jeff Lawrence made this ruling?


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
William James
 
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RMK
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Care to weigh in Nika?


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
William James
 
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Nika!!!! So good to see you having posted!


Why couldn't she just file the defamation case using the "John Doe" name if the court already has his name? Releasing it to the "victim's" guardian....doesn't that carry with it a conflict of interest issue? Not to mention, she hasn't even decided whether or not she will file the suit....so, wth?


Should I give up, or should I just keep chasing pavements....even if it leads nowhere - Adele
 
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I like Judge Lawrence. Always friendly. Always chatty. Almost always enforces his own laws.


"A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
William James
 
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One of the most famous lawyers in American history tried to pull this "anonymous poster" routine. In 1842.

His "nick" was Rebecca (or occasionally, Jeff). He got busted and true to the 1842-times, was challenged to a duel by the politico he was ripping under the cover of his not-so-anonymous identity!

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Putting his renowned sarcastic wit and talent for satire to the task, Lincoln, through his assumed identities, lampooned Shields poor policies and mismanagement of his duties. Throughout this series of letters, Lincoln’s friends Mary Todd and Julia Jayne also began sending letters of their own. The two got carried away and their letters became increasingly more vicious attacking the character and personality of Shields, in which they stated that he was “overly pompous, a hypocrite, and a liar”.

The satire also began to take on a life of its own in the social scene as letters were written from assumed identities recalling fictitious events at parties and social clubs that painted a poor picture of Shields, as well as stating Shields apparent inadequacies with the ladies.

Because of Shields vain and overly pompous personality, he became a natural target for satire. Word spread quickly of these “letters” in the newspaper and Shields was outraged. He was determined to discover who had begun this criticism. Shields pressured the editor of the paper to reveal the sources of these letters. The editor gave Shields only Lincoln’s name, as Lincoln himself had instructed him too. Even though Lincoln was not the only one taking part in this letter writing campaign, he had decided to take the blame for it if things got out of control. He especially wanted to protect Mary Todd, the friend who would soon become his wife.


Abe? Busted! And how 'bout those she-devils, Mary and Julia?

The Lincoln-Shields Duel
 
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Nika: Thanks for trying. I don't understand your first answer, though. If the court is aware of the defendant's identity, why must it be public record? Why couldn't it just stay protected?

As for the conflict of interest thing....at this point, I don't even remember what I was thinking, though I can assure you it was a valid thought process, lol.

When I said that she wasn't even sure if she would file the suit, I meant against the poster. According to the link that was posted, she said she wasn't sure if she was going to do it.


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