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Originally posted by howdy60137:
smoking bans in all of ireland and england for at least 2 years...and they are surviving!

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Originally posted by theTroof:
I have a hot coffee complaint I want to file against The Glen Oak.

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Originally posted by theTroof:

You have to qualify "all of ireland and england", similarly when people make the same arguements for SF and Chicago... sure, there are restaurants and bars that are completely smoke free. Typically tourist places or places that aren't in any way an establishment that "regulars" would go. But throughout the neighborhoods, many if not most of the bars and restaurants are status quo, if not more stringent on ensuring that smokers and non are segregated.

I'm not a smoker, so I couldn't care any less, but here's how it will run (just as it has everywhere else they tried this)...

First couple weeks to 1 month.... Smoke Free
After 1 month to 2 months... when the regulars quit showing up that would sit around the bar all night and keep the bar afloat after all the dad's go home at 7:30 , the bartenders will say "Just keep the smoking to the ashtrays on the bar"
After about three months... the bar and the tables directly around the bar will have ashtrays.

That's just how it will work. If it doesn't, Shannons and Curly's, etc. will be out of business. Those places don't make money on the mom's and dad's who order a burger, one Tanq & Tonic and then leave.

PS. Let me know how the lawsuits go. As soon as you win, I have a hot coffee complaint I want to file against The Glen Oak.

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:

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Originally posted by theTroof:

You have to qualify "all of ireland and england", similarly when people make the same arguements for SF and Chicago... sure, there are restaurants and bars that are completely smoke free. Typically tourist places or places that aren't in any way an establishment that "regulars" would go. But throughout the neighborhoods, many if not most of the bars and restaurants are status quo, if not more stringent on ensuring that smokers and non are segregated.

I'm not a smoker, so I couldn't care any less, but here's how it will run (just as it has everywhere else they tried this)...

First couple weeks to 1 month.... Smoke Free
After 1 month to 2 months... when the regulars quit showing up that would sit around the bar all night and keep the bar afloat after all the dad's go home at 7:30 , the bartenders will say "Just keep the smoking to the ashtrays on the bar"
After about three months... the bar and the tables directly around the bar will have ashtrays.

That's just how it will work. If it doesn't, Shannons and Curly's, etc. will be out of business. Those places don't make money on the mom's and dad's who order a burger, one Tanq & Tonic and then leave.

PS. Let me know how the lawsuits go. As soon as you win, I have a hot coffee complaint I want to file against The Glen Oak.

my offer for a wager still stands. . . even though you've waffled on your original prediction of two weeks and have extended it to "after 1 month to 2 months [sic]." but if we do bet, you will need to stand pat on a time limit./b] and to be fair to me, that time limit will have to remain within two months ([b]you're longest prediction to date). i'm a nice guy and all, but not that an easy a mark.

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Originally posted by Clamato:
t.a.

fix the typo above and I'll delete this. No one will need to know.

hurry

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Originally posted by Clamato:
Damn!

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:


my offer for a wager still stands. . . even though you've waffled on your original prediction of two weeks and have extended it to "after 1 month to 2 months [sic]." but if we do bet, you will need to stand pat on a time limit. and to be fair to me, that time limit will have to remain within two months (you're longest prediction to date). i'm a nice guy and all, but not that an easy a mark.

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Originally posted by middlein87:

And we all know about the latest attack on obesity. In the name of high health care costs, "They" will soon be after your pizza, and anything else that tastes good.