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Originally posted by Clamato:
Something completely out of place.

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Originally posted by Ruydah:

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Originally posted by Clamato:
Something completely out of place.

I'd disagree. Look at the number of homeless in the CBD. A discarded 40 is entirely in keeping with that crowd. You spoiled the game I wanted to create. Kind of a "Where's Waldo" type where the first bb'er to find it could have won a prize or something.

Fish, thanks again for the invite to that happy hr last week. Clam, of all people, had to tell me. How humiliating.

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Originally posted by Clamato:

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Originally posted by Clamato:
The experiment ended when t.a. superette found the bottle. I tainted the data by instructing him not to touch it. It is my belief that he was going to pick it up and throw it away.

Experiment over.

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btw #2, i did two tours of CBD yesterday, one at 2:00 p.m. another around 6:00 p.m. the only homeless person is saw is the guy who's been around for years. i think you guys call him mcsmokes, or something. he was in prairie path park around 2:30.

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Originally posted by Clamato:

The whole point of the bottle experiment was that hundreds had to have seen it in the 3.5+ weeks it was there, yet nobody felt compelled to pick it up and put it in the garbage. Until you came along. The villagers of Glen Ellyn owe you a very big thank you, t.a. I do admire Professor Ruydah's work. For someone like he and I to ignore a foetee for that long...this is truly the ultimate in self-restraint.

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Originally posted by Hermsdaughter:

I noticed he was still there at 5:30 last night while I was taking the dog for a walk. It looked like he was sleeping...

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:

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Originally posted by Clamato:

The whole point of the bottle experiment was that hundreds had to have seen it in the 3.5+ weeks it was there, yet nobody felt compelled to pick it up and put it in the garbage. Until you came along. The villagers of Glen Ellyn owe you a very big thank you, t.a. I do admire Professor Ruydah's work. For someone like he and I to ignore a foetee for that long...this is truly the ultimate in self-restraint.

right. but who were you observing, apathetic citizens or lazy PWers? better way to ask that: between you and me, who were most irked at for not picking it up -- apathetic citizens or lazy PWers? personally, i'd say the citizens.

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Originally posted by t.a. superette:

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Originally posted by Hermsdaughter:

I noticed he was still there at 5:30 last night while I was taking the dog for a walk. It looked like he was sleeping...

so mcsmokes is our regular guy. i get that. kinda like otis campbell, but a little smellier. my daily tours will be to verify the very serious homeless problem here in GE. a problem i've been lead to believe by reading posts here. i need to do this becasue, well, i'm a need-to-know guy. truthfully, i've not spent as much time in the CBD lately as most the posters (so it seems) and i want to see for myself this purported problem. translated, i ain't jumping on any bandwagons until i gather the facts for myself.

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Originally posted by Clamato:

It was not important who picked up the 40. The point is that it was not picked up. A 40 in a paper bag (you can vouch for its appearance, I assume) is an unusual sight on the streets of Glen Ellyn. Especially sitting there for 3-4 weeks. Hundreds of people per day walked past the 40. High schoolers, commuters, runners, cyclists, dog walkers, mums pushing babies, etc. No one, other than you (and what a frickin' odd coincidence that is, BTW) felt the need to pick it up. That, and the acknowledged-by-many fact that most of us will not walk two blocks to buy an ice cream cone says a lot. Or does it? This is an interesting topic for discussion.

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Originally posted by Clamato:

I've not been as excited about the homeless issue as most of y'all. Frankly, I come downtown less and less these days. I do see many, many odd scenes. Scenes I never saw a few years ago. People sleeping on the benches outside of Beister. Groups of men drinking (maybe one owned the 40!!) in Prairie Path park. People sleeping in the pagoda. I have yet to see anyone urinating in public. Needless to say, if I do, I will be interested in knowing why he/she is doing so. But...I do see the domination that Yoss and BB speak of whenever I drive by Einstein on any given weekend. There was a homeless gentleman camping outside my bank on Main Street Saturday night asking for $$$. There are the local colorful folk that ask for 50 cents (walking guy) here and there (he used to ask just for a quarter)...and yes, there is Wayne who has been a fixture in this town forever (bike and smokes guy). Neither is homeless.

I guess my biggest concern is the selective enforcement of regulations. I know I wouldn't be allowed to sleep in the pagoda (would be awesome, BTW)...wouldn't be able to panhandle, wouldn't be able to urinate in the streets or parks (again...would be nice to do so), most likely wouldn't be allowed to sleep in the brilliant sunshine amongst the tall grasses near the Prairie Path. Something I think I have already mentioned that I would like to do. So why do we have rules if they will not be enforced? For every dime we bring in in parking ticket revenue (something I have always assumed is a net loss after paying salaries and benes for those that write and process those things), we chase away potential customers and investors by not necessarily putting our best face on. So, t.a. superette, as much as I don't consider myself to be a reactionary kind of person, I would say that we do indeed have an issue that needs addressing. That being said, I see little being changed unless the village says it needs to be changed. I do not see that happening.