Doesn't feel as exciting as '03. What's in store? Cards certainly did well last year in same position. Let the games begin....

Doesn't feel as exciting as '03.

Agree. In 2003, there was a sense they were going to go all the way to the WS and win it. This year, not so much.

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Originally posted by Bry:
Ratings down 38% in Chicago, up drastically in the rest of the country (of course, Ed Sherman did not report that fact). Only the cubune corporation cared apparently.



gone without a wimper.

I know I said I'd be nice, but it's "whimper" you moron!!! Your barbed wit would be sooooooooooooo much more effective if you could spell!!! OK, now I’ll go back to being nice. I was at the game.....we got what we deserve.

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Originally posted by Fish:

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Originally posted by Bry:
Ratings down 38% in Chicago, up drastically in the rest of the country (of course, Ed Sherman did not report that fact). Only the cubune corporation cared apparently.



gone without a wimper.

I know I said I'd be nice, but it's "whimper" you moron!!! Your barbed wit would be sooooooooooooo much more effective if you could spell!!! OK, now I’ll go back to being nice. I was at the game.....we got what we deserve .

Derserved. Past tense. You'll get what you deserve, you got what you deserved. Other than that...I agree with what you said.

Sorry...really didn't want to point that out, but I had to. It will make you stronger.

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Originally posted by Bry:
doesn't feel as exciting becuase of 2 reasons:

1. they are the best crappy team in the worst division in baseball. You take the Royals or Devilrays out of their division and put them in the NL Central at the start of the year, you got a different division winner right now.

2. The Sox kinda did something in 2005 that changed the landscape of Chicago baseball.

BRYSOXFAN,
Really, the Rays and Royals would have changed the division winner? Give me your best Bill James impression and explain how 2 teams with near-similiar records to the cellar dweller of the NL Central would have somehow changed things.

And your reference to the 2005 White Sox title, while very nice for the South siders hardly qualifies as a landscape changing event. This will always be a Bears town...followed closely by the Cubs. The Bulls and White Sox are a distant tie for third...and always will be. Emphasis on "distant". And if Bill Wirtz (God rest his soul) had been born with a brain rather than a silver spoon, the Blackhawks would be right there too.

It seems easy for you to rip the Cubs, but let's hear something that's not straight out of Cubune.com. An original thought, please.

You'll be getting an important lesson on how much the Cubs are worth in the near future when the sale goes through. Compare that to Chicago's second division team. Talk about your "landscape changing" events.

I blame it on the adrenaline. See other post.

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Originally posted by Ruydah:
And your reference to the 2005 White Sox title, while very nice for the South siders hardly qualifies as a landscape changing event.

Oh stop. Cub fans would still be dealing with Andy McPhail if the Sox did not win in 2005. The landscape changed in that Cub fans refused to be jerked around anymore. Their attendance through the turnstiles went down in 2006. I did not make that up. That was McDonough.

You might also remember that the Blackhawks were the valuable team (after the Bears) years ago. Not the Cubs or White Sox. But that capital was squandered.

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Originally posted by ronkas:

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Originally posted by Ruydah:
And your reference to the 2005 White Sox title, while very nice for the South siders hardly qualifies as a landscape changing event.

Oh stop. Cub fans would still be dealing with Andy McPhail if the Sox did not win in 2005. The landscape changed in that Cub fans refused to be jerked around anymore. Their attendance through the turnstiles went down in 2006. I did not make that up. That was McDonough.

You might also remember that the Blackhawks were the valuable team (after the Bears) years ago. Not the Cubs or White Sox. But that capital was squandered.

Chicago Cubs
attendance at
Wrigley Field
2006 3,123,215
2005 3,100,262
2004 3,170,154
2003 2,962,630
2002 2,693,096

Looks like attendance went down a tick in '05...with a slight jump in '06. You made that up, RK!

White Sox attendance

2006 2,957,414
2005 2,342,833
2004 1,930,537
2003 1,939,524
2002 1,676,911

Crumby team or not...it certainly pays to have a ballpark in a neighborhood that the Midwest perceives to be safe. Don't see a lot of Iowans bussed into the south side for a game. That said, if I am taking my kids to a game...I'm going to The Cell. It's like going to the mall most nights, drive up...get out of the car...you're in your seat in 10 minutes. Food is better, bathrooms are right there, you're rarely gone more than 1 batter for any reason. Simply because there are not that many people given the size of te place. Wrigley Field...unless you're with your friends...is a pain in the crotch. A total hassle...from getting there, to being there, and leaving there. Great ballpark, though.

Your BoSox look awfully good, Clam.

Turnstile count is not the same as tickets sold. Refer to McDonough's interviews. Toward the end of last year, there were many empty seats. Tickets are one thing. Concession sales are critical to their marketing. You can't have empty seats. No add on sales.

Were you living out here when the Sox almost moved to Addison? Before the great fraudulent negotiation to move the team to St. Petersburg. Those Florida people are such rubes.

You definitely have the time to drive to Michigan for fish tacos. You really do.

Grilled Mahi Mahi Fish Tacos
Pineapple-soy marinated mahi, wrapped in gordita shells with lettuce, pico de gallo & chipotle cream…Spanish rice & chips’ n salsa $14.99

That punk admitted to me a couple of weeks ago that he ain't got no more good wine. Drank it all.

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Originally posted by Bry:


Royals and D-rays would have beaten up that division. (not the Sox of course, they went something like 4-12). The D-rays would love to play the cub, pitt and cincy any day over the yankees, bosox, oriole and bluejay. Your little second division baseball team played in a second division division. The NL Central is the worst division in baseball.

It doesn't help that a media giant is driving the price up any chance they get.

We could argue about the best/worst divisions in baseball all day long, but we both know that these things are cyclical...except of course for the AL East where the 2 big spenders will ensure some measure of success. Which brings us to TB. It is unfortunate that a small market team is in the same division with the behemoths, but to think they and KC would have won another division would make you....well, blind.

Take a look at what those 2 teams have done against the NL in interleague play. 20 games below .500 for each of them. With no DH it ain't getting any better.

Your quote about the big bad Tribune driving up the price..WHILE TRYING TO SELL ONE OF THEIR ASSETS...is really puzzling. Isn't that the point?...trying to get the most they can? Is there another way that is more palatable to the staff at Cubune? BTW, what will the "watchers" be watching once the sale is complete?